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Should I buy a LSAT Strategy Guide?

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:01 pm
by ensoleiller
I'm planning to take the August LSAT. I've done 3 practice tests so far, scoring 166, 174, and 172. Would it be at all useful to me to purchase LSAT strategy guides (for example the Powerscore Bibles) or would I be best off just going through as many practice tests as I can?

Re: Should I buy a LSAT Strategy Guide?

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:02 pm
by DankHill
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Re: Should I buy a LSAT Strategy Guide?

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:58 pm
by ensoleiller
DankHill wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:02 pm
Your practice test scores are excellent. Did you take the practice tests timed or untimed?
They were timed. I ran out of time on logic games on my first test with 3 questions to go but otherwise my timing was good. These were PrepTests 41-43, though, so maybe I need to take some more recent PrepTests for a more accurate diagnostic?

Re: Should I buy a LSAT Strategy Guide?

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:04 am
by DankHill
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Re: Should I buy a LSAT Strategy Guide?

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:52 am
by pancakes3
It wouldn't hurt to get a prep book for the logic games so you can still those but otherwise, continuing to PT works too. It just would be a more effective use of your time to shore up your problem areas (to the extent one has problem areas with a 172) instead of devoting time to entire PTs

Re: Should I buy a LSAT Strategy Guide?

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:13 pm
by Stranger
You do need to get some more recent PTs, from at least the 70s or 80s. Not sure how high they've published, but the RC in particular was getting tougher about the time I took mine (September 2017). If you find the RC from more recent years is more challenging, I found the Manhattan RC book helpful based on recommendations on the previous board.

Re: Should I buy a LSAT Strategy Guide?

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:56 am
by app
ensoleiller wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:58 pm
DankHill wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:02 pm
Your practice test scores are excellent. Did you take the practice tests timed or untimed?
They were timed. I ran out of time on logic games on my first test with 3 questions to go but otherwise my timing was good. These were PrepTests 41-43, though, so maybe I need to take some more recent PrepTests for a more accurate diagnostic?
how were you section-wise scores/breakdowns?

these are definitely old PTs. RC has changed (and LR too to some extent) greatly in new PTs. so you need to get your score on a new PT, under test conditions for it to be a good appraiser.

but your above pt scores are very solid. RC is where you may see some drop, but since you're scoring well off the bat, i doubt it'd be a serious issue.

Re: Should I buy a LSAT Strategy Guide?

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:42 am
by Slytherpuff
I'd get some recent PTs to try, as many as you can get your hands on, and then consider a PowerScore Bible for whatever section(s) you're weaker in. I really liked Manhattan Prep books back in the day (...8 years ago haha). 7Sage is another great resource. Mike Kim's LSAT Trainer wasn't a thing in my day but I've heard great things.

Re: Should I buy a LSAT Strategy Guide?

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:39 pm
by ensoleiller
Thanks all for the great advice. I'll do some newer PTs and see how I fare on those before revisiting the idea of getting section-specific guides.

Re: Should I buy a LSAT Strategy Guide?

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:43 pm
by ensoleiller
app wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:56 am
ensoleiller wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:58 pm
DankHill wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:02 pm
Your practice test scores are excellent. Did you take the practice tests timed or untimed?
They were timed. I ran out of time on logic games on my first test with 3 questions to go but otherwise my timing was good. These were PrepTests 41-43, though, so maybe I need to take some more recent PrepTests for a more accurate diagnostic?
how were you section-wise scores/breakdowns?

these are definitely old PTs. RC has changed (and LR too to some extent) greatly in new PTs. so you need to get your score on a new PT, under test conditions for it to be a good appraiser.

but your above pt scores are very solid. RC is where you may see some drop, but since you're scoring well off the bat, i doubt it'd be a serious issue.
Across the 3 PTs so far I averaged -2 on LG, -2.7 on RC, and -3.3 on LR. I don't have an obvious weakest section from what I can tell so far, but yes, I will definitely get some newer PTs to see how I do on those.

Re: Should I buy a LSAT Strategy Guide?

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:06 pm
by abyss
From where you are starting you can definitely get that LG to -0 with practice and a guide. 7sage lg videos were the go to when I took the lsat 6 years ago. It makes absolute sense, even from where you are starting in your PTs, to spend a few hundred dollars on practice materials and guide books for potentially tens of thousands of dollars in scholarship money or acceptances into the t-3 or t-6.

Re: Should I buy a LSAT Strategy Guide?

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:49 pm
by DankHill
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Re: Should I buy a LSAT Strategy Guide?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:45 pm
by app
ensoleiller wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:43 pm
app wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:56 am
ensoleiller wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:58 pm
DankHill wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:02 pm
Your practice test scores are excellent. Did you take the practice tests timed or untimed?
They were timed. I ran out of time on logic games on my first test with 3 questions to go but otherwise my timing was good. These were PrepTests 41-43, though, so maybe I need to take some more recent PrepTests for a more accurate diagnostic?
how were you section-wise scores/breakdowns?

these are definitely old PTs. RC has changed (and LR too to some extent) greatly in new PTs. so you need to get your score on a new PT, under test conditions for it to be a good appraiser.

but your above pt scores are very solid. RC is where you may see some drop, but since you're scoring well off the bat, i doubt it'd be a serious issue.
Across the 3 PTs so far I averaged -2 on LG, -2.7 on RC, and -3.3 on LR. I don't have an obvious weakest section from what I can tell so far, but yes, I will definitely get some newer PTs to see how I do on those.
imo if someone can get those kind of score on new rc, then it's possible for them to get to 175+ if they put in effort.
the hardest section to improve is rc, and most of lsat is a test of reading ability.

there is also a thread of lsat prep if you want to post. do post how those new PTs go for you.