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New ATL Rankings - UVA #1

Post by icechicken » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:56 pm

https://abovethelaw.com/law-school-rank ... ools-2019/

It seems their algorithm is really hard on HYS, which makes sense given their narrow goals but will make it harder to get the credibility needed to break the USNWR monopoly.

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Re: New ATL Rankings - UVA #1

Post by Stranger » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:21 pm

I've had a little fun with the ATL rankings, and using the 2019, 2018, 2017, and 2015 data (the 2016 data on their site appears to be messed up), I ran a weighted average for the 35 schools that appear in all four years' rankings. I normalized each year's data, because the formula has changed and the maxima varied dramatically. Here, then, are weighted (.5/.25/.15/.1) averages of ATL ratings for those 35 schools:
Spoiler:
1. Chicago 96.79
2. Virginia 96.63
3. Duke 95.50
4. Stanford 93.00
5. Harvard 91.66
6. Penn 91.29
7. Yale 90.09
8. Cornell 89.07
9. Northwestern 88.81
10. Michigan 86.73
11. Columbia 85.36
12. Berkeley 82.56
13. Vanderbilt 81.54
14. Texas 81.01
15. NYU 78.22
16. WUSTL 75.15
17. GULC 70.77
18. Notre Dame 69.60
19. Georgia 68.87
20. Iowa 67.58
21. UNC 67.06
22. W&L 66.32
23. BC 65.99
24. Illinois 65.28
25. UCLA 64.80
26. BU 64.73
27. OSU 64.55
28. W&M 64.24
29. Minnesota 61.89
30. Florida 60.71
31. Alabama 60.16
32. Seton Hall 59.26
33. Emory 57.68
34. SMU 57.19
35. Villanova 56.76
So, while HYS don't finish at the top of the stack (and, frankly, maybe shouldn't be the undisputed top 3), they're all in the top 7. The schools that really feel the hurt are:
(1) USC - they're not even on this list, because they often don't even make the top 50. Even if we ignored their absence from 2017 and 2015 and gave 2019 2/3 of the weight and 2018 1/3, they'd still fall in between Florida and Alabama.
(2) NYU - from their perch in the perennial elite to below Vanderbilt and Texas, NYU takes a beating from the ATL rankings.
(3) UCLA - from the T14's #1 contender to barely making the top 25, UCLA takes almost as much of a beating as their cross-town rivals.
(4) Emory - maybe USNWR dropping them out of the top 25 is a recognition of reality, but they finish behind Seton Hall in the ATL rankings.
(5) Yale - yeah, okay, these rankings are unkind to Yale. Still, Yale's BL/FC numbers have been weak (relative to their peers) lately, and that's reflected here.

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Re: New ATL Rankings - UVA #1

Post by icechicken » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:48 pm

NYU, along with Columbia, is hurt by its especially eye-watering cost of attendance - this is also doubtlessly helping UVA and Duke.

Maybe that's a good thing. In the head-to-head comparison between USC and UCLA, for example, it should definitely hurt the former that it's about $70k more expensive for CA residents. The fact that US News completely obscures cost but rewards expenditures-per-student (and, therefore, spiraling costs) is probably the most pernicious thing about their rankings.

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Re: New ATL Rankings - UVA #1

Post by Stranger » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:24 pm

icechicken wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:48 pm
NYU, along with Columbia, is hurt by its especially eye-watering cost of attendance - this is also doubtlessly helping UVA and Duke.
It seems to me it should also be helping Berkeley. Is the California bar exam doing so much harm to their FTLT BPR numbers as to wipe that out?

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