Does midlaw "Summer Program" = "LOL NOPE" for 3Ls?

[Securestay]

As in title. If the firm states that it has a summer program, does that basically mean that any 3L who wants to apply for an entry level position is faced with "LOL NOPE"? This question isn't about the market-paying "biglaw" firms, but midsize firms that would definitely pay below market, although I can't be sure by how much.

[jeff chiles]

No it just means they have a summer program

[BigZuck]

Apply first, then think. You’re thinking first. Not good.

[Securestay]

Apply first, then think. You’re thinking first. Not good.

Admitted. Point conceded. Will stipulate.

[BigZuck]

Gotta mass blast dem apps my dude

[Pleasy E]

No, I work at a boutique firm. We have a summer program but still interview 3Ls if we have a need for associates.

[lolwat]

Agree with all the above.

Some additional thoughts: Once you get out of biglaw, hiring becomes a lot less structured. Most of the time if a midlaw or boutique firm needs someone, they need them quick. Summer positions don't help shit other than giving them some expensive advertisement to students/schools because SAs are generally useless for substantive work, and the firms don't know what they'll need 2 years later.