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PI Summer Stipends by School

Post by sorence » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:16 pm

Hi everyone! Not sure if this is the right place to put this, or if something like this already exists (if so, ignore me), but after a conversation with a few fellow interns this week I realized that it'd be nice for prospective students to have a quick reference chart of various law schools, whether they offer summer PI stipends, the amount of said stipends, and the general application process/eligibility constraints.

Will add more in my downtime/feel free to contribute in comments and I'll expand accordingly.
  • Yale: "The Law School has guaranteed that a SPIF fellowship will be at least $7,500 (pro-rated at $625 per week for up to 12 weeks). Students may also receive outside funding from grants, stipends from their public interest employer, additional jobs, etc., and SPIF grants will be adjusted so that the total earnings for the summer does not exceed the $7,500 maximum." Government and non-profit summer jobs are eligible, judicial clerkships are not.
    https://law.yale.edu/admissions/cost-fi ... r-aid-spif
  • Stanford: 1L summer and JSD students typically receive up to $5,800; 2L students doing a second summer in public interest law receive up to $7,500. Joint-degree and JSD students may participate for a maximum of three summers. Government and non-profit summer jobs are eligible, judicial clerkships are not.
    https://law.stanford.edu/levin-center/s ... ellowships
  • Harvard (thanks, Cannonballer!): For 280 hours of work over a minimum of 8 weeks over 1L summer (and 2Ls/SJDs if they don't do more hours as detailed below): $5,200 for students on financial aid* and $3,600 for students not on financial aid. This is given in the form of a grant, no repayment necessary.
    * “on financial aid” is defined as being eligible for and receiving at least $20,500 in the form of a Direct Unsubsidized need-based loan certified by the Student Financial Services office, or the equivalent.

    For 2L summer and SJD awards: 315-349 hours = $5,850 on financial aid; $4,050 not on financial aid. 350+ hours = $6,500 on financial aid, $4,500 not on financial aid.
    https://hls.harvard.edu/dept/sfs/spif/s ... f-funding/

    Funding Cap (for cases where you have supplemental funding):The 2018 funding cap for 1Ls is $7,500 and the funding cap for 2Ls and SJDs is $9,000.
    https://hls.harvard.edu/dept/sfs/spif/s ... ding-caps/
  • Columbia: $4,500 (for eight 40 hour weeks of work) for 1L summer. $6,000 (for ten 40 hour weeks of work) for 2L summer. Student input: "It's not in any of the online information, but they now allow students to receive the summer funding even if your PI internship pays (so you get both)."
  • NYU: $4,500 for 1L summer. $6,500 for 2L summer. Students are allowed to keep a maximum combined total (PILC funding plus outside funding) of $6,000 for 1Ls and $15,000 for 2Ls.
    This is a work study situation where it’s given freely with no repayment strings. BUT the stipend amount may be deducted from your subsequent school year loan eligibility if you don’t fill out cost of living adjustments.
    http://www.law.nyu.edu/publicinterestla ... er-funding
  • University of Michigan (thanks, oldbay+boh and chandhi!): Gives summer funding in the form of an interest-free loan.
    1L: Guaranteed forgivable loan of $4,000 for everyone, regardless of the work you do or how much you make. The loan will be forgiven for any student whose earnings during both law school summers total less than $18,000. Students who earn $20,000 or more must fully repay the loan, while those earning $18,000-$20,000 will repay on a sliding scale. There are also competitive $6,000 public interest grants you can apply for, and a few other assorted fellowships.
    2L: $5,000 for public service positions. Also, more assorted fellowships.

    Info about the 1L forgivable loan: https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinfo/f ... 40915.aspx
    Assorted fellowships: https://www.law.umich.edu/careers/fello ... nding.aspx
  • UVA (thanks, LaLaLaw!): "Administered by the Public Service Center and the Public Interest Law Association, this program provides grants to law students who accept low-paying or unpaid public service summer internships in the pre-tax amount of $3,750 to 1Ls and $6,500 to 2Ls. Funding comes from student fundraising efforts, faculty, alumni and community donors. In 2018, PILA distributed more than $572,828 to 143 grantees."
    https://www.law.virginia.edu/public-ser ... ic-service
  • Northwestern (thanks, Mr Fish-N-Chips and guy!): $8,000 summer funding for full-time public interest (nonprofit or government) legal work in the US. This is a grant guaranteed if a student works 20 hours of public service and have a a PI/government job (no repayment necessary). Also some named fellowships and an international PI summer funding program which is $9,500 (available to six students per year). Judicial externships are not eligible.
    Student input (thanks, Sinoper!): "Another key part of Northwestern PI summer funding is that it has an organization called Student Funded Public Interest Fellowships (SFPIF). It's separate from the named PI fellowships, and it holds events throughout the year (an auction, book sales, bar review sponsorship, etc.) to raise money for public interest fellowships. If a student volunteers for 20 hours in this program (they can also count these 20 hours towards the 20 hours required for the school's $8,000 grant), then the student gets a cut of the SFPIF pool. I'm not sure what it was this year, because I was too lazy to do hours through the organization, but I think students got around ~$1,500 for completing their hours last year. So, theoretically you could do 20hrs through this group and get $8,000 from the school + ~$1,500 from SFPIF = $9,500 in summer PI grants without applying for a named one. If you got a named fellowship, you could also combine the SPFIF funds and have ~$11,000 for your international Pi summer."
    http://www.law.northwestern.edu/law-sch ... r-support/
  • Georgetown (thanks, ball is life!): There are two Summer Funding programs: Public Service Summer Grants of $3,250 and Dean’s Public Service Summer Fellowships of $5,500 (only for upper-class students). In addition, EJF Summer Augmenting Awards of $500 can be used to supplement either the Grant or Fellowship.
    https://www.law.georgetown.edu/your-lif ... t-funding/
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Post by Cannonballer » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:43 pm

HLS: https://hls.harvard.edu/dept/sfs/spif/s ... f-funding/
For 280 hours of work over a minimum of 8 weeks for 1Ls (and 2Ls/SJDs if they don't do more hours as detailed below):
$5,200 for students on financial aid*
$3,600 for students not on financial aid
* “on financial aid” is defined as being eligible for and receiving at least $20,500 in the form of a Direct Unsubsidized need-based loan certified by the Student Financial Services office, or the equivalent.

2L and SJD awards:
315-349 hours: $5850 on financial aid, $4050 not on financial aid
350+ hours: $6500 on financial aid, $4500 not on financial aid

Funding Cap (for cases where you have supplemental funding): https://hls.harvard.edu/dept/sfs/spif/s ... ding-caps/
The 2018 funding cap for 1Ls is $7,500 and the funding cap for 2Ls and SJDs is $9,000.

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Post by ball is life » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:47 pm

Georgetown: Georgetown offers guaranteed summer funding for students engaged in public service summer activities. There are two Summer Funding programs: Public Service Summer Grants of $3250 and Dean’s Public Service Summer Fellowships of $5500 (only for upper-class students). In addition, EJF Summer Augmenting Awards of $500 can be used to supplement either the Grant or Fellowship.

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/your-lif ... t-funding/

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Post by Mr Fish-N-Chips » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:23 pm

NU: $8000 summer funding for full-time public interest (nonprofit or government) legal work in the US. Also some named fellowships and an international PI summer funding program which is $9500, available to six students per year.

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/law-sch ... r-support/

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Post by sorence » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:34 pm

Edits added, thanks for the info!

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Post by ocw96 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:39 pm

UCLA: $4000 summer funding for 1L summer. Per the merit aid email I received: "We guarantee that you will receive a $4,000 cash grant if you choose to work as a volunteer in the summer after your first year of law school in a legal position with a nonprofit organization or government agency, subject to your complying with the application requirements of our summer public interest program."

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Post by oldbay+boh » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:00 pm

Are these all grants or are some of these loans? If I remember from my visits, Harvard does their summer funding as an actual grant, but Michigan gives summer funding in the form of an interest-free loan. It would seem to be a pretty important distinction.

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Post by sorence » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:17 pm

oldbay+boh wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:00 pm
Are these all grants or are some of these loans? If I remember from my visits, Harvard does their summer funding as an actual grant, but Michigan gives summer funding in the form of an interest-free loan. It would seem to be a pretty important distinction.
Thats a great layer to dig into! I’m not sure about other schools, but NYU’s is a work study situation where it’s given freely with no repayment strings. BUT the stipend amount may be deducted from your subsequent school year eligibility if you don’t fill out cost of living adjustments. I’ll add in school specific information as its given.

I just ruined my laptop, so I’ll work on this post more once I figure out how to fix that situation.

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Post by oldbay+boh » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:35 pm

sorence wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:17 pm
oldbay+boh wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:00 pm
Are these all grants or are some of these loans? If I remember from my visits, Harvard does their summer funding as an actual grant, but Michigan gives summer funding in the form of an interest-free loan. It would seem to be a pretty important distinction.
Thats a great layer to dig into! I’m not sure about other schools, but NYU’s is a work study situation where it’s given freely with no repayment strings. BUT the stipend amount may be deducted from your subsequent school year eligibility if you don’t fill out cost of living adjustments. I’ll add in school specific information as its given.

I just ruined my laptop, so I’ll work on this post more once I figure out how to fix that situation.
Got it! I’ll look around at Michigan’s exact numbers/Policy later and post it here (I’ll need to know it at some point anyways).

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Post by Sinoper » Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:36 am

sorence wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:17 pm

Thats a great layer to dig into! I’m not sure about other schools, but NYU’s is a work study situation where it’s given freely with no repayment strings. BUT the stipend amount may be deducted from your subsequent school year eligibility if you don’t fill out cost of living adjustments. I’ll add in school specific information as its given.

I just ruined my laptop, so I’ll work on this post more once I figure out how to fix that situation.
Northwestern's $8,000 is a grant, so no repayment, that a student is guaranteed if they do 20 hours of public service and have a PI/Gov't summer job. Another key part of Northwestern PI summer funding is that it has an organization called Student Funded Public Interest Fellowships (SFPIF). It's separate from the named PI fellowships, and it holds events throughout the year (an auction, book sales, bar review sponsorship, etc.) to raise money for public interest fellowships. If a student volunteers for 20 hours in this program (they can also count these 20 hours towards the 20 hours required for the school's $8,000 grant), then the student gets a cut of the SFPIF pool. I'm not sure what it was this year, because I was too lazy to do hours through the organization, but I think students got around ~$1,500 for completing their hours last year. So, theoretically you could do 20hrs through this group and get $8,000 from the school + ~$1,500 from SFPIF = $9,500 in summer PI grants without applying for a named one. If you got a named fellowship, you could also combine the SPFIF funds and have ~$11,000 for your international Pi summer.

PI culture here probably doesn't compare to Georgetown/NYU, but the resources are definitely there after the Pritzker gift.

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Post by Nebby » Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:22 am

We need a "Choosing a Public Interest Law School" forum

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Post by chandhi » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:07 pm

oldbay+boh wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:35 pm
sorence wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:17 pm
oldbay+boh wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:00 pm
Are these all grants or are some of these loans? If I remember from my visits, Harvard does their summer funding as an actual grant, but Michigan gives summer funding in the form of an interest-free loan. It would seem to be a pretty important distinction.
Thats a great layer to dig into! I’m not sure about other schools, but NYU’s is a work study situation where it’s given freely with no repayment strings. BUT the stipend amount may be deducted from your subsequent school year eligibility if you don’t fill out cost of living adjustments. I’ll add in school specific information as its given.

I just ruined my laptop, so I’ll work on this post more once I figure out how to fix that situation.
Got it! I’ll look around at Michigan’s exact numbers/Policy later and post it here (I’ll need to know it at some point anyways).
1L: Guaranteed forgivable loan of $4,000 for everyone, regardless of the work you do or how much you make. The loan will be forgiven for any student whose earnings during both law school summers total less than $18,000. Students who earn $20,000 or more must fully repay the loan, while those earning $18,000-$20,000 will repay on a sliding scale. There are also competitive $6,000 public interest grants you can apply for, and a few other assorted fellowships.
2L: $5,000 for public service positions. Also, more assorted fellowships.

Link to info about the 1L forgivable loan: https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinfo/f ... 40915.aspx
Link to assorted fellowships: https://www.law.umich.edu/careers/fello ... nding.aspx

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Post by guy » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:30 pm

Could be added: NU doesn't include judicial externships. I believe all other govt (fed, state, local) count.
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Post by LaLaLaw » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:13 pm

UVA —

Administered by the Public Service Center and the Public Interest Law Association, this program provides grants to law students who accept low-paying or unpaid public service summer internships in the pre-tax amount of $3,750 to 1Ls and $6,500 to 2Ls. Funding comes from student fundraising efforts, faculty, alumni and community donors. In 2018, PILA distributed more than $572,828 to 143 grantees. PILA Grantee Job Locations

https://www.law.virginia.edu/public-ser ... ic-service

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Post by oldbay+boh » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:07 pm

chandhi wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:07 pm
oldbay+boh wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:35 pm
sorence wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:17 pm
oldbay+boh wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:00 pm
Got it! I’ll look around at Michigan’s exact numbers/Policy later and post it here (I’ll need to know it at some point anyways).
1L: Guaranteed forgivable loan of $4,000 for everyone, regardless of the work you do or how much you make. The loan will be forgiven for any student whose earnings during both law school summers total less than $18,000. Students who earn $20,000 or more must fully repay the loan, while those earning $18,000-$20,000 will repay on a sliding scale. There are also competitive $6,000 public interest grants you can apply for, and a few other assorted fellowships.
2L: $5,000 for public service positions. Also, more assorted fellowships.

Link to info about the 1L forgivable loan: https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinfo/f ... 40915.aspx
Link to assorted fellowships: https://www.law.umich.edu/careers/fello ... nding.aspx
Thanks for picking up that ball I dropped. Good to know that the “loan” becomes a grant if you do two PI summers.

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Post by archipm » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:37 pm

UChi guarantees $5k for up to two summers if you do at least 8 weeks in public interest or government (including judicial internships)

https://www.law.uchicago.edu/financialaid/summerfunding

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Re: PI Summer Stipends by School

Post by sorence » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:40 am

Awesome, I just updated with the new information. Thanks for contributing, everyone!

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