Employment Statistics by School - C/O 2018 rolling out + C/O 2012-2017 data

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Sinoper
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Re: Employment Statistics by School - C/O 2018 rolling out + C/O 2012-2017 data

Post by Sinoper » Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:16 pm

MT Cicero wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:01 pm
icechicken wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:52 pm
MT Cicero wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:47 pm
Also, Northwestern just released their JD-MBA numbers separately, and it's by far the largest percentage of BL folks in that crowd in at least 8 years (21/27 in 100+ firms).

So, for the first time in a long time (maybe ever), NU's BL+FC percentage actually dropped when you remove the JD-MBA's from the numerator and denominator, though only by 0.24%.
This vindicates the practice of dropping JD/MBAs from the percentages, IMO. It just took a good year for the b-school crowd and NU pulled to basically even with Chicago.
Agree. It was still a big year for NU, so a nudge behind Chicago I'd still say. But without JD-MBAs it's typically a 2.5-3.0% bump in the BL+FC numbers (and over 5% in 2013). With just JDs, NU has been over 68% since the c/o 2013 and over 70% since the c/o 2015. Essentially the type of numbers that makes "take the money" probably the right answer for generic biglaw goals (all else equal) when comparing NU at even $30K cheaper COA than T6 options.
I agree. I also think it's worth noting for those who look at these charts that no school ever really (has ever?) crested the 85% mark. No matter what T13 you go to, even at 0% unemployment, there is always at least 15% that want to end up wanting to doing PI/Gov't/JD Advantage. IMO, taking 15% out of the denominator really shows a schools BL+FC numbers.

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Re: Employment Statistics by School - C/O 2018 rolling out + C/O 2012-2017 data

Post by Jubo » Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:02 am

Sinoper wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:16 pm
MT Cicero wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:01 pm
icechicken wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:52 pm
MT Cicero wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:47 pm
Also, Northwestern just released their JD-MBA numbers separately, and it's by far the largest percentage of BL folks in that crowd in at least 8 years (21/27 in 100+ firms).

So, for the first time in a long time (maybe ever), NU's BL+FC percentage actually dropped when you remove the JD-MBA's from the numerator and denominator, though only by 0.24%.
This vindicates the practice of dropping JD/MBAs from the percentages, IMO. It just took a good year for the b-school crowd and NU pulled to basically even with Chicago.
Agree. It was still a big year for NU, so a nudge behind Chicago I'd still say. But without JD-MBAs it's typically a 2.5-3.0% bump in the BL+FC numbers (and over 5% in 2013). With just JDs, NU has been over 68% since the c/o 2013 and over 70% since the c/o 2015. Essentially the type of numbers that makes "take the money" probably the right answer for generic biglaw goals (all else equal) when comparing NU at even $30K cheaper COA than T6 options.
I agree. I also think it's worth noting for those who look at these charts that no school ever really (has ever?) crested the 85% mark. No matter what T13 you go to, even at 0% unemployment, there is always at least 15% that want to end up wanting to doing PI/Gov't/JD Advantage. IMO, taking 15% out of the denominator really shows a schools BL+FC numbers.
I don't think that 15% is entirely self selection. The bottom 10%, no matter where you are at, is going to struggle to find biglaw/fed clerkships. At that point we're talking about kids with a good number of discretionary low grades that weren't caused by the curve.

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