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GULC students & grads taking questions

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Post by par283 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:03 pm

How do you find housing in DC? Is it insanely expansive?

Also, how to you find the atmosphere to be? I worry that attending a school in a big city will make it really tough to make friends. How do you meet people and make connections?

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Post by m052310 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:28 pm

par283 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:03 pm
How do you find housing in DC? Is it insanely expansive?

Also, how to you find the atmosphere to be? I worry that attending a school in a big city will make it really tough to make friends. How do you meet people and make connections?
I can't speak much to housing since I'm old and live in the burbs. The atmosphere seems pretty collegial to me (I'm a 1L). Everyone wants to do well, but I haven't seen anyone trying to get there at the expense of others. As a first year, you take classes with the same bunch of people pretty much all year, so you can't really help but get to know each other.

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Post by legallyadog » Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:43 am

par283 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:03 pm
How do you find housing in DC? Is it insanely expansive?

Also, how to you find the atmosphere to be? I worry that attending a school in a big city will make it really tough to make friends. How do you meet people and make connections?
Apartments.com, craigslist, and there's a list on the gulc website that has the most popular apartment complexes for students. It's definitely more expensive than living in the middle of nowhere but you can find reasonable stuff if you have a roommate/scour craigslist.

Everyone's friendly and wants to make friends too. It's like freshman year where everyone introduces themselves and wants to be your friend. Put in minimal effort and you'll make friends.

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Post by thunder3029 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:53 pm

How do people like the Gerwitz housing? Is there a major difference between the efficiency apartments and the normal ones?

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Post by Gray » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:06 pm

gerwirz seems like a bad choice — it's overpriced for crappy old apartments and you can't escape the law student bubble

You can find studios or a roomate situation within a 10 minute walk for much better value or a much nicer building

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Post by Littlewing67 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:59 pm

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Post by Gray » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:53 pm

Littlewing67 wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:59 pm
Do you know any Public Interest Fellows? Just wondering what the interview process is like and how helpful GULC is for PI students. A fully scholly sounds amazing!
PIFs don't get a scholly, thats PILS (public interest law scholars). It's not a full scholly though. It's substantial, and its stackable with other GULC $$ (i.e. it won't get usurped by need aid), but it's definitely not a full. PIF doesn't get you anything other than a line on your resume really. Very hard to get, only a handful of people per year are PILS. Might be helpful to read their bios

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Post by Hand » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:06 pm

PILS get a full ride as of this year, Gray. Totally worth applying if you think you’re competitive for it, and even if you are not sure whether you are.

The PIF program is not competitive at all since it doesn’t come with money. It does help to connect you to the public interest community and thus is worth crapping together the essays.

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Post by Gray » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:23 pm

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Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:06 pm
PILS get a full ride as of this year, Gray. Totally worth applying if you think you’re competitive for it, and even if you are not sure whether you are.

The PIF program is not competitive at all since it doesn’t come with money. It does help to connect you to the public interest community and thus is worth crapping together the essays.
lol wtf that's awesome. also JFC we're old and out of touch. I know you're used to that but jeeeez.

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Post by Littlewing67 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:37 am

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Post by Hand » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:26 am

Littlewing67 wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:37 am
Gray wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:23 pm
Hand wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:06 pm
PILS get a full ride as of this year, Gray. Totally worth applying if you think you’re competitive for it, and even if you are not sure whether you are.

The PIF program is not competitive at all since it doesn’t come with money. It does help to connect you to the public interest community and thus is worth crapping together the essays.
lol wtf that's awesome. also JFC we're old and out of touch. I know you're used to that but jeeeez.
I apologize I got the two mixed up that’s what i meant :mrgreen: Ive heard Admissions selects you to apply and you can’t apply on your own.
Oh yeah that's right, it used to be by application but they handpick you now that it comes with the big bucks

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thunder3029 wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:53 pm
How do people like the Gerwitz housing? Is there a major difference between the efficiency apartments and the normal ones?
I'm a sucker for the convenience, but it's tiny/outdated for sooo much money. I was also too lazy to hunt for apartments.

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Post by ezrafitz » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:33 pm

Checking in to answer questions as a 2017 grad.

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Post by ChutzpahSaxa15 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:45 pm

Did you find the career services office or OPICS helpful in finding employment?

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Post by ezrafitz » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:56 pm

ChutzpahSaxa15 wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:45 pm
Did you find the career services office or OPICS helpful in finding employment?
Cannot speak to OPICS, but unfortunately found essentially no help from OCS. Simply were a bit too out of touch with the process when I talked with them. Good for having a practice interview though, just for getting some of that structure practiced.

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Post by Gray » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:20 pm

I've actually heard that OCS gives aggressively bad advice sometimes — like terrible bidding advice, or 'don't bother applying with your grades' or like 'you should straighten your natural hair for interviews'

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Post by Gray » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:25 pm

And I for one never bothered with either OCS or OPICS. I think it's much more valuable to get to know a professor who has had a career similar to what you are interested in, and ask them for advice. They're more likely to have specific/relevant information, and can put you in touch with practitioners in the field. Professor friends are probably more useful for government or other PI stuff, because its often more employer-specific.

Generic biglaw is really more about intelligent bidding and interviewing well. PI is often a lot more about demonstrating interest, writing really good cover letters and having strong recommendations.

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Post by m052310 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:57 pm

Anyone know the going hourly rate for faculty research assistants?

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Post by Hand » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:05 pm

m052310 wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:57 pm
Anyone know the going hourly rate for faculty research assistants?
$17, it’s not negotiable

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Post by Hand » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:10 pm

ChutzpahSaxa15 wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:45 pm
Did you find the career services office or OPICS helpful in finding employment?
OPICS is good for help with identifying non-profits for internships and fellowship applications, and working on applications for those. They’re Not helpful helpful for finding summer jobs or postgrad positions with plaintiffs firms. Can’t speak to their usefulness regarding government gigs, but they do put together various interview programs and informational thingies on that front. I never set foot in OCS.

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Post by Capitol_Idea » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:54 pm

Hand wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:05 pm
m052310 wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:57 pm
Anyone know the going hourly rate for faculty research assistants?
$17, it’s not negotiable
Is it still $16.90 or did you all cop a MARKET SHATTERING RAISE in the past 3 years?

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Post by Capitol_Idea » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:58 pm

Gray wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:20 pm
I've actually heard that OCS gives aggressively bad advice sometimes — like terrible bidding advice, or 'don't bother applying with your grades' or like 'you should straighten your natural hair for interviews'
If I listened to OCS I wouldn't have landed with the (sweet) firm I'm at now.

Being as charitable as I can manage, it's not that OCS is necessarily terrible, it's that their goal and your goal are similar but not perfectly aligned. They want you to get hired. They don't care where or for how much, really. You care about finding a job you want to work at and on the career track you want etc. The difference here is that OCS will have you bid to secondary markets or for more safety position schools and not waste your time on longshots. To some extent there is value in listening to what they have to say to get that perspective but little value in following their advice blindly.

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Post by urmlaw18 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:57 pm

Are you excited that John Chiang is running for Governor in CA?

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Post by Mma038 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:01 pm

Does anyone have a sense of how many of the students going into govt and PI is due self selection or are those the only jobs available due to the class size? What’s the prospect for a student that’s around the median?

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