2020 transfers

Discuss all things related to transfer admissions, including chances, choice of school, etc.
LochnersAngels
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by LochnersAngels » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:09 pm

Nebby wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:30 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:45 am
barkschool wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:31 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:34 pm
1L Student here considering transferring. Top 5-10% at T14. Considering HYS.
Georgetown or higher?

Whats your desired career path?
In the MVBP range.

Want to start in biglaw, but eventually covert to a more livable job. Litigation or bust.
No reason to transfer if all you want is biglaw. You're guaranteed a biglaw job with top 10% at MVBP. Unless you currently receive no financial aid, then a transfer makes no sense financially or outcome-wise.
No benefits with down the road laterals/government moves?

I have a full tuition scholarship, so I get it probably doesn't make sense on paper.

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barkschool
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by barkschool » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:33 pm

LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:09 pm
Nebby wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:30 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:45 am
barkschool wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:31 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:34 pm
1L Student here considering transferring. Top 5-10% at T14. Considering HYS.
Georgetown or higher?

Whats your desired career path?
In the MVBP range.

Want to start in biglaw, but eventually covert to a more livable job. Litigation or bust.
No reason to transfer if all you want is biglaw. You're guaranteed a biglaw job with top 10% at MVBP. Unless you currently receive no financial aid, then a transfer makes no sense financially or outcome-wise.
No benefits with down the road laterals/government moves?

I have a full tuition scholarship, so I get it probably doesn't make sense on paper.
Dear god. A transfer for Big Law in your case makes absolutely no sense.

There is nothing out of reach for you from your school with your grades. I think Nebby may have a touch more exp on the lit side, but except for a few unicorn jobs from Yale you should really stay put.

Also, there are hardly any firms that aren’t open to you in the first place.

LochnersAngels
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by LochnersAngels » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:46 pm

barkschool wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:33 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:09 pm
Nebby wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:30 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:45 am
barkschool wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:31 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:34 pm
1L Student here considering transferring. Top 5-10% at T14. Considering HYS.
Georgetown or higher?

Whats your desired career path?
In the MVBP range.

Want to start in biglaw, but eventually covert to a more livable job. Litigation or bust.
No reason to transfer if all you want is biglaw. You're guaranteed a biglaw job with top 10% at MVBP. Unless you currently receive no financial aid, then a transfer makes no sense financially or outcome-wise.
No benefits with down the road laterals/government moves?

I have a full tuition scholarship, so I get it probably doesn't make sense on paper.
Dear god. A transfer for Big Law in your case makes absolutely no sense.

There is nothing out of reach for you from your school with your grades. I think Nebby may have a touch more exp on the lit side, but except for a few unicorn jobs from Yale you should really stay put.

Also, there are hardly any firms that aren’t open to you in the first place.
Thanks for the advice. To be clear, the end-game isn't biglaw, it's government, preferably BigFed.

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Nebby
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by Nebby » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:47 pm

LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:09 pm
Nebby wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:30 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:45 am
barkschool wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:31 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:34 pm
1L Student here considering transferring. Top 5-10% at T14. Considering HYS.
Georgetown or higher?

Whats your desired career path?
In the MVBP range.

Want to start in biglaw, but eventually covert to a more livable job. Litigation or bust.
No reason to transfer if all you want is biglaw. You're guaranteed a biglaw job with top 10% at MVBP. Unless you currently receive no financial aid, then a transfer makes no sense financially or outcome-wise.
No benefits with down the road laterals/government moves?

I have a full tuition scholarship, so I get it probably doesn't make sense on paper.
I can't think of any lateral/government job that is closed off by graduating from MVBP rather than HYS. The government cares even less about school pedigree than BigLaw. There are no biglaw firms that hire exclusively from HYS.

LochnersAngels
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by LochnersAngels » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:49 am

Nebby wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:47 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:09 pm
Nebby wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:30 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:45 am
barkschool wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:31 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:34 pm
1L Student here considering transferring. Top 5-10% at T14. Considering HYS.
Georgetown or higher?

Whats your desired career path?
In the MVBP range.

Want to start in biglaw, but eventually covert to a more livable job. Litigation or bust.
No reason to transfer if all you want is biglaw. You're guaranteed a biglaw job with top 10% at MVBP. Unless you currently receive no financial aid, then a transfer makes no sense financially or outcome-wise.
No benefits with down the road laterals/government moves?

I have a full tuition scholarship, so I get it probably doesn't make sense on paper.
I can't think of any lateral/government job that is closed off by graduating from MVBP rather than HYS. The government cares even less about school pedigree than BigLaw. There are no biglaw firms that hire exclusively from HYS.
And your advice is the same if I'm unhappy at my current school? (not sure if it's the school, the law, or just me being a misanthrope)

doctornerd
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by doctornerd » Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:46 pm

Top 7% at a T50-60 with stellar softs (+PhD)

Applying to all T14 except HYS - Will update as acceptances come in for future transfers in my situation.

EDIT Update #1:
In at USC, BU, GULC
Interviewed with Chicago --> Deferred to RD pool (my interview went extremely well, but it seems like last year almost all were deferred to RD as well. Still hopeful)

EDIT Update #2:
In at UCLA, U Michigan

EDIT Update #3:
In at Northwestern
Interview invite for Cornell

EDIT Update #4:
In at Duke
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Nebby
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by Nebby » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:04 pm

LochnersAngels wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:49 am
Nebby wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:47 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:09 pm
Nebby wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:30 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:45 am
barkschool wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:31 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:34 pm
1L Student here considering transferring. Top 5-10% at T14. Considering HYS.
Georgetown or higher?

Whats your desired career path?
In the MVBP range.

Want to start in biglaw, but eventually covert to a more livable job. Litigation or bust.
No reason to transfer if all you want is biglaw. You're guaranteed a biglaw job with top 10% at MVBP. Unless you currently receive no financial aid, then a transfer makes no sense financially or outcome-wise.
No benefits with down the road laterals/government moves?

I have a full tuition scholarship, so I get it probably doesn't make sense on paper.
I can't think of any lateral/government job that is closed off by graduating from MVBP rather than HYS. The government cares even less about school pedigree than BigLaw. There are no biglaw firms that hire exclusively from HYS.
And your advice is the same if I'm unhappy at my current school? (not sure if it's the school, the law, or just me being a misanthrope)
Yes.

LawSchoolGeek
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by LawSchoolGeek » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:33 pm

T2, top 2%, 4.07 GPA.

I applied GULC EA and HLS. Also applying to Columbia, NYU, Penn, and Yale (lol I know I have pretty much no shot but applying because one of the professors writing my rec is an alumnus and encouraged me to).

Reason for transferring: Family is all on the east coast (also where I wanna practice) and my school is on the west coast. Even though it's my main reason for transferring I only applied to T14 schools because I'm on a full scholarship so it's really only worth it if I can go to a higher ranked school with a good shot at biglaw.

1221
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by 1221 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:58 pm

LawSchoolGeek wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:33 pm
T2, top 2%, 4.07 GPA.

I applied GULC EA and HLS. Also applying to Columbia, NYU, Penn, and Yale (lol I know I have pretty much no shot but applying because one of the professors writing my rec is an alumnus and encouraged me to).

Reason for transferring: Family is all on the east coast (also where I wanna practice) and my school is on the west coast. Even though it's my main reason for transferring I only applied to T14 schools because I'm on a full scholarship so it's really only worth it if I can go to a higher ranked school with a good shot at biglaw.
Good luck! Similar stats (west coast school) was about to get into all of those minus Y. So I think you're in good shape!.

LochnersAngels
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by LochnersAngels » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:25 pm

Nebby wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:04 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:49 am
Nebby wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:47 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:09 pm
Nebby wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:30 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:45 am
barkschool wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:31 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:34 pm
1L Student here considering transferring. Top 5-10% at T14. Considering HYS.
Georgetown or higher?

Whats your desired career path?
In the MVBP range.

Want to start in biglaw, but eventually covert to a more livable job. Litigation or bust.
No reason to transfer if all you want is biglaw. You're guaranteed a biglaw job with top 10% at MVBP. Unless you currently receive no financial aid, then a transfer makes no sense financially or outcome-wise.
No benefits with down the road laterals/government moves?

I have a full tuition scholarship, so I get it probably doesn't make sense on paper.
I can't think of any lateral/government job that is closed off by graduating from MVBP rather than HYS. The government cares even less about school pedigree than BigLaw. There are no biglaw firms that hire exclusively from HYS.
And your advice is the same if I'm unhappy at my current school? (not sure if it's the school, the law, or just me being a misanthrope)
Yes.
Willing to comment on chances for HYS?

Lightbulb38
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by Lightbulb38 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:52 pm

LochnersAngels wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:25 pm
Nebby wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:04 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:49 am
Nebby wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:47 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:09 pm
Nebby wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:30 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:45 am
barkschool wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:31 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:34 pm
1L Student here considering transferring. Top 5-10% at T14. Considering HYS.
Georgetown or higher?

Whats your desired career path?
In the MVBP range.

Want to start in biglaw, but eventually covert to a more livable job. Litigation or bust.
No reason to transfer if all you want is biglaw. You're guaranteed a biglaw job with top 10% at MVBP. Unless you currently receive no financial aid, then a transfer makes no sense financially or outcome-wise.
No benefits with down the road laterals/government moves?

I have a full tuition scholarship, so I get it probably doesn't make sense on paper.
I can't think of any lateral/government job that is closed off by graduating from MVBP rather than HYS. The government cares even less about school pedigree than BigLaw. There are no biglaw firms that hire exclusively from HYS.
And your advice is the same if I'm unhappy at my current school? (not sure if it's the school, the law, or just me being a misanthrope)
Yes.
Willing to comment on chances for HYS?
Wouldn’t it be better if u stayed put?

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Nebby
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by Nebby » Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:25 pm

LochnersAngels wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:25 pm
Nebby wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:04 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:49 am
Nebby wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:47 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:09 pm
Nebby wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:30 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:45 am
barkschool wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:31 pm
LochnersAngels wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:34 pm
1L Student here considering transferring. Top 5-10% at T14. Considering HYS.
Georgetown or higher?

Whats your desired career path?
In the MVBP range.

Want to start in biglaw, but eventually covert to a more livable job. Litigation or bust.
No reason to transfer if all you want is biglaw. You're guaranteed a biglaw job with top 10% at MVBP. Unless you currently receive no financial aid, then a transfer makes no sense financially or outcome-wise.
No benefits with down the road laterals/government moves?

I have a full tuition scholarship, so I get it probably doesn't make sense on paper.
I can't think of any lateral/government job that is closed off by graduating from MVBP rather than HYS. The government cares even less about school pedigree than BigLaw. There are no biglaw firms that hire exclusively from HYS.
And your advice is the same if I'm unhappy at my current school? (not sure if it's the school, the law, or just me being a misanthrope)
Yes.
Willing to comment on chances for HYS?
Chances are good. However, transferring will not give you any appreciable benefit but will give you more debt to pay off.

legallybrunette2020
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by legallybrunette2020 » Fri May 18, 2018 10:20 am

3.6 GPA (top 15%ish) from a strong T1. I’m wondering if it’s worth it to put it some transfer apps, if my grades stay the same or bump me up. End goal is AUSA or BigFed. I really want a federal clerkship as well, before doing a few years of Big Law.

Whodareswins
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by Whodareswins » Tue May 22, 2018 2:12 pm

legallybrunette2020 wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 10:20 am
3.6 GPA (top 15%ish) from a strong T1. I’m wondering if it’s worth it to put it some transfer apps, if my grades stay the same or bump me up. End goal is AUSA or BigFed. I really want a federal clerkship as well, before doing a few years of Big Law.
I say do it! Top 15% is pretty good. When do you get your spring semester grades? Getting into the top 10% would be helpful. Is a strong T1 like Vandy or WUSTL?

legallybrunette2020
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by legallybrunette2020 » Wed May 23, 2018 10:44 am

Whodareswins wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 2:12 pm
legallybrunette2020 wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 10:20 am
3.6 GPA (top 15%ish) from a strong T1. I’m wondering if it’s worth it to put it some transfer apps, if my grades stay the same or bump me up. End goal is AUSA or BigFed. I really want a federal clerkship as well, before doing a few years of Big Law.
I say do it! Top 15% is pretty good. When do you get your spring semester grades? Getting into the top 10% would be helpful. Is a strong T1 like Vandy or WUSTL?
Hoping I break into the top 10%. Two grades back this semester and they’re both good, but I’ll need the three remaining grades to be as good or better to securely be top 10%. My school is not Vandy or WUSTL. Think BC/BU/Fordham/GW.

TortsOutForTheBoys
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by TortsOutForTheBoys » Wed May 23, 2018 7:52 pm

These were my early action decisions in case it's helpful for anyone in the future:

T1 (40s) top 15%, 1 book award.

GULC - Deferred
Vanderbilt - Deferred without interview
BU - Deferred
GW - Deferred (kinda salty lol)
WUSTL - Accepted
Emory - Accepted

I don't feel as confident about my finals this semester as I did after my finals in the fall, so I think I'm most likely gonna end up at WUSTL.

Edit: Found out I got $$ from wustl and I can't turn that down. Maybe I'll see some of you all in St. Louis this fall!
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Whodareswins
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by Whodareswins » Wed May 23, 2018 10:23 pm

Really hoping to get into Harvard but I know it's a Hail Mary from my lower T2. I think I'm either #1, 2, or 3 after 1L. Still waiting on one grade and then the formal rank. I want Harvard and that sweet need-based financial aid.

colfunk1
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by colfunk1 » Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:50 pm

I finished the year with a 3.8 from a T20. Historically ~3.70 is top 10% but they raised median .1 this year. They don't rank and only post top 10% gpa. I am applying to HS and don't know if it's worth it. Fed Clerkship then Big Law Lit is primarily my goal. Also 90% scholarship. Any input would be great

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Nebby
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by Nebby » Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:23 pm

colfunk1 wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:50 pm
I finished the year with a 3.8 from a T20. Historically ~3.70 is top 10% but they raised median .1 this year. They don't rank and only post top 10% gpa. I am applying to HS and don't know if it's worth it. Fed Clerkship then Big Law Lit is primarily my goal. Also 90% scholarship. Any input would be great
Have you begun cultivating relationships with professors at your school for clerkship purposes? My first reaction is that transferring is not worth it financially.

colfunk1
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by colfunk1 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:08 am

Nebby wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:23 pm
colfunk1 wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:50 pm
I finished the year with a 3.8 from a T20. Historically ~3.70 is top 10% but they raised median .1 this year. They don't rank and only post top 10% gpa. I am applying to HS and don't know if it's worth it. Fed Clerkship then Big Law Lit is primarily my goal. Also 90% scholarship. Any input would be great
Have you begun cultivating relationships with professors at your school for clerkship purposes? My first reaction is that transferring is not worth it financially.
Yea I do have a handful of good relationships at school already.

Frenk
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by Frenk » Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:05 pm

Anyone successfully negotiate with a transfer school you’re accepted at using your current school’s counteroffer (research assistantship + $$$)?

Lightbulb38
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by Lightbulb38 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:11 pm

Anyone have experience with UCLA interviews?

switch
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by switch » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:48 pm

Lightbulb38 wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:11 pm
Anyone have experience with UCLA interviews?
I had mine recently. fairly straightforward. Why UCLA? How was 1L? Just be polite and don't do anything crazy.

Lightbulb38
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by Lightbulb38 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:53 pm

switch wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:48 pm
Lightbulb38 wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:11 pm
Anyone have experience with UCLA interviews?
I had mine recently. fairly straightforward. Why UCLA? How was 1L? Just be polite and don't do anything crazy.
Have u heard anything yet? Or did they say when decisions are usually made?

switch
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Re: 2020 transfers

Post by switch » Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:07 am

Lightbulb38 wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:53 pm
switch wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:48 pm
Lightbulb38 wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:11 pm
Anyone have experience with UCLA interviews?
I had mine recently. fairly straightforward. Why UCLA? How was 1L? Just be polite and don't do anything crazy.
Have u heard anything yet? Or did they say when decisions are usually made?
Nope I only know what you know. Decisions tend to be made around early/mid July according to past threads.

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