COA Clerkship Chances and Questions

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COA Clerkship Chances and Questions

Post by AnonymousClerk » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:42 pm

Hi guys,

I had a couple of questions regarding applying to COA judges. I'm currently a 2L, t20 school, top 10%, LR, and i have a district court clerkship lined up after graduation in a major city. I understand how competitive COA positions can be, so I'm super geographically flexible, and I tended to avoid applying DC COA or any known feeders. Do i have any shot?

Most of the COA judges where I go to school (and therefore have the most alumni/professor connections) are on the new hiring plan. My school still suggested that I send paper applications to judges that aren't on the hiring plan or didn't have anything listed on OSCAR. My professors have offered to make a few calls for me whenever, but do you guys think it'd be best to have my professors call judges who've opened up their applications already, or would it be better to wait and have them call some of the judges that they might have (slightly) more connection to once the new hiring plan kicks in in June?

Thanks!

Anon 1

Re: COA Clerkship Chances and Questions

Post by Anon 1 » Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:42 am

Ancedotally, I know of people in the top 25% (outside top 10%) land CoA clerkships from my T20, although it was a local circuit (judge sits in the same city as the law school). While I can't be 100% sure, I wouldn't be surprised if that was done with a lot of heavy lifting from a professor or some other connection, but I would say that your credentials certainly put you in the running for many CoA clerkships.

AnonymousClerk

Re: COA Clerkship Chances and Questions

Post by AnonymousClerk » Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:44 pm

Anon 1 wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:42 am
Ancedotally, I know of people in the top 25% (outside top 10%) land CoA clerkships from my T20, although it was a local circuit (judge sits in the same city as the law school). While I can't be 100% sure, I wouldn't be surprised if that was done with a lot of heavy lifting from a professor or some other connection, but I would say that your credentials certainly put you in the running for many CoA clerkships.
That's good to hear! I've been feeling a little dejected. I sent out over 120 paper applications, and i've only been able to snag one interview for 2021 (although know i'm lucky to have at least gotten an interview). I tended to apply to more senior judges, in lieu of 2/9/DC and known feeders, because i felt like they might be less competitive, but it's led to a lot of responses of "we aren't reviewing applications for 2021 until way later, and i may be retired by then." Should I continue focusing on senior judges, or should I just shoot my shot at everyone once OSCAR opens up in june?

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Re: COA Clerkship Chances and Questions

Post by quiver » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:36 pm

AnonymousClerk wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:44 pm
Should I continue focusing on senior judges, or should I just shoot my shot at everyone once OSCAR opens up in june?
The latter.

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Re: COA Clerkship Chances and Questions

Post by lolwat » Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:35 pm

AnonymousClerk wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:44 pm
Anon 1 wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:42 am
Ancedotally, I know of people in the top 25% (outside top 10%) land CoA clerkships from my T20, although it was a local circuit (judge sits in the same city as the law school). While I can't be 100% sure, I wouldn't be surprised if that was done with a lot of heavy lifting from a professor or some other connection, but I would say that your credentials certainly put you in the running for many CoA clerkships.
That's good to hear! I've been feeling a little dejected. I sent out over 120 paper applications, and i've only been able to snag one interview for 2021 (although know i'm lucky to have at least gotten an interview). I tended to apply to more senior judges, in lieu of 2/9/DC and known feeders, because i felt like they might be less competitive, but it's led to a lot of responses of "we aren't reviewing applications for 2021 until way later, and i may be retired by then." Should I continue focusing on senior judges, or should I just shoot my shot at everyone once OSCAR opens up in june?
Apply to every single COA judge you would be willing to clerk for. Every single one. Top 10% at T20 won't have the easiest time getting a COA clerkship. The more judges you apply to and the more calls you can get in with those judges, the better. The more connections you can pull, the better.

I assume you've already put your forthcoming D.Ct. clerkship on your resume but if you haven't, do that ASAP and update your current outstanding applications with that D.Ct. clerkship.

Also, rejections suck, and there is a good chance you may end up with nothing, but keep your chin up. This process always sucks. Hard.

AnonymousClerk

Re: COA Clerkship Chances and Questions

Post by AnonymousClerk » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:59 pm

lolwat wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:35 pm
AnonymousClerk wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:44 pm
Anon 1 wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:42 am
Ancedotally, I know of people in the top 25% (outside top 10%) land CoA clerkships from my T20, although it was a local circuit (judge sits in the same city as the law school). While I can't be 100% sure, I wouldn't be surprised if that was done with a lot of heavy lifting from a professor or some other connection, but I would say that your credentials certainly put you in the running for many CoA clerkships.
That's good to hear! I've been feeling a little dejected. I sent out over 120 paper applications, and i've only been able to snag one interview for 2021 (although know i'm lucky to have at least gotten an interview). I tended to apply to more senior judges, in lieu of 2/9/DC and known feeders, because i felt like they might be less competitive, but it's led to a lot of responses of "we aren't reviewing applications for 2021 until way later, and i may be retired by then." Should I continue focusing on senior judges, or should I just shoot my shot at everyone once OSCAR opens up in june?
Apply to every single COA judge you would be willing to clerk for. Every single one. Top 10% at T20 won't have the easiest time getting a COA clerkship. The more judges you apply to and the more calls you can get in with those judges, the better. The more connections you can pull, the better.

I assume you've already put your forthcoming D.Ct. clerkship on your resume but if you haven't, do that ASAP and update your current outstanding applications with that D.Ct. clerkship.

Also, rejections suck, and there is a good chance you may end up with nothing, but keep your chin up. This process always sucks. Hard.
Thank you for the encouragement. i'm still young, so i'm super geographically flexible. But once OSCAR opens up, i'll be sure to send applications to all the judges i didn't apply to yet.

The district court clerkship is listed on my resume and cover letter. It was the first thing my CSO told me to make sure was on my resume when i was applying hahah.

Quick question, i havent heard back from a majority of judges (i think i've only gotten responses from like 20 maybe 30 out of the 120 apps i sent out). Is there a chance I'll get interviews later on in the summer, and i just happened to apply at a down time?

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Re: COA Clerkship Chances and Questions

Post by lolwat » Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:58 pm

AnonymousClerk wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:59 pm
lolwat wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:35 pm
AnonymousClerk wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:44 pm
Anon 1 wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:42 am
Ancedotally, I know of people in the top 25% (outside top 10%) land CoA clerkships from my T20, although it was a local circuit (judge sits in the same city as the law school). While I can't be 100% sure, I wouldn't be surprised if that was done with a lot of heavy lifting from a professor or some other connection, but I would say that your credentials certainly put you in the running for many CoA clerkships.
That's good to hear! I've been feeling a little dejected. I sent out over 120 paper applications, and i've only been able to snag one interview for 2021 (although know i'm lucky to have at least gotten an interview). I tended to apply to more senior judges, in lieu of 2/9/DC and known feeders, because i felt like they might be less competitive, but it's led to a lot of responses of "we aren't reviewing applications for 2021 until way later, and i may be retired by then." Should I continue focusing on senior judges, or should I just shoot my shot at everyone once OSCAR opens up in june?
Apply to every single COA judge you would be willing to clerk for. Every single one. Top 10% at T20 won't have the easiest time getting a COA clerkship. The more judges you apply to and the more calls you can get in with those judges, the better. The more connections you can pull, the better.

I assume you've already put your forthcoming D.Ct. clerkship on your resume but if you haven't, do that ASAP and update your current outstanding applications with that D.Ct. clerkship.

Also, rejections suck, and there is a good chance you may end up with nothing, but keep your chin up. This process always sucks. Hard.
Thank you for the encouragement. i'm still young, so i'm super geographically flexible. But once OSCAR opens up, i'll be sure to send applications to all the judges i didn't apply to yet.

The district court clerkship is listed on my resume and cover letter. It was the first thing my CSO told me to make sure was on my resume when i was applying hahah.

Quick question, i havent heard back from a majority of judges (i think i've only gotten responses from like 20 maybe 30 out of the 120 apps i sent out). Is there a chance I'll get interviews later on in the summer, and i just happened to apply at a down time?
I'm way out of the loop as far as timing goes, but I would think so, yes. Unfortunately, for the most part, applications sort of go into a void--you'll just never hear from them if you got rejected, so it's equally likely that's happened as well.

AnonymousClerk

Re: COA Clerkship Chances and Questions

Post by AnonymousClerk » Wed May 01, 2019 4:05 pm

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I'm way out of the loop as far as timing goes, but I would think so, yes. Unfortunately, for the most part, applications sort of go into a void--you'll just never hear from them if you got rejected, so it's equally likely that's happened as well.
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looks like I just gotta hope it's the former and not the latter hahaha. Actually, one other question. i haven't gotten a reply yet, is it too late to have to professors call now even though my apps were sent in like a month ago?

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Re: COA Clerkship Chances and Questions

Post by lolwat » Wed May 01, 2019 7:35 pm

AnonymousClerk wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 4:05 pm
looks like I just gotta hope it's the former and not the latter hahaha. Actually, one other question. i haven't gotten a reply yet, is it too late to have to professors call now even though my apps were sent in like a month ago?
I think it's probably fine

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