So you think you want BigLaw?

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Nebby
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Re: So you think you want BigLaw?

Post by Nebby » Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:30 am

I think lawyers are just broken because even when sick I still feel bad about missing work and end up doing some from home anyway. (I don't work in biglaw and can freely take a sick day w/o consequence but still end up working)

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Re: So you think you want BigLaw?

Post by North » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:09 pm

HelloYesThisIsDog wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:26 am
North wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:12 am
I once had to jump in and close a deal for someone who got the flu. It was horrible and I'm still mad about it.
Who are you mad at? Hopefully not the person with the flu, who obviously had no choice in contracting a serious illness.
Admittedly I'm letting the ruthless biglaw chicken flow through me on this one

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Re: So you think you want BigLaw?

Post by Nony » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:12 pm

Nebby wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:30 am
I think lawyers are just broken because even when sick I still feel bad about missing work and end up doing some from home anyway. (I don't work in biglaw and can freely take a sick day w/o consequence but still end up working)
I don’t know, I think that’s on you. If I’m sick I stay home and be sick and don’t work.

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Nebby
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Re: So you think you want BigLaw?

Post by Nebby » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:20 pm

Maybe that also means you're broken. JUSTICE DOES NOT TAKE SICK DAYS NONY

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Re: So you think you want BigLaw?

Post by barkschool » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:39 pm

North wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:12 am
I once had to jump in and close a deal for someone who got the flu. It was horrible and I'm still mad about it.
Gotta let this shit wash over you

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Re: So you think you want BigLaw?

Post by jingosaur » Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:29 am

I watched Wedding Crashers the other day and this is by far the most accurate depiction of biglaw that you can make in 40 seconds:


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Re: So you think you want BigLaw?

Post by DankHill » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:26 pm

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Re: So you think you want BigLaw?

Post by notachicken » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:34 pm

DankHill wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:26 pm
How achievable is an in-house gig straight out of school? Biglaw sounds awful.
it's doable but i don't think you're likely to get an in-house job with a good career trajectory straight out of law school. biglaw isn't that bad in secondary markets.

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Re: So you think you want BigLaw?

Post by heythatslife » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:40 pm

DankHill wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:26 pm
How achievable is an in-house gig straight out of school? Biglaw sounds awful.
It’s not impossible but the types of in-house gigs that are considered desirable due to pay, stability or upside (F500 companies, major financial institutions, well-funded tech companies, etc.) generally become available after 3-4 years of biglaw.

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Re: So you think you want BigLaw?

Post by waldorf » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:50 pm

notachicken wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:34 pm
DankHill wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:26 pm
How achievable is an in-house gig straight out of school? Biglaw sounds awful.
it's doable but i don't think you're likely to get an in-house job with a good career trajectory straight out of law school. biglaw isn't that bad in secondary markets.
I’m in Texas and can attest that, at least as a junior, you can avoid the TLS/LSL horror stories if you get into a good firm and group. I only work past 7:30 pm 20ish% of the time, and the most I have billed on a weekend so far is like 6.5 hours. The problem imo is that it’s hard to get into a group/firm with a decent culture. It was basically 100% luck for me (aside from getting good enough grades that I had my choice of firms).

Your responsibilities increase as you get more senior and the midlevels I work with work worse hours than I do, and I doubt I’ll stay past year 3 or so. Also, WFH makes the late nights easier to deal with—I’ll be crankier when I’m in the office I’m sure, especially if it’s full time.

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Re: So you think you want BigLaw?

Post by Slytherpuff » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:09 pm

I think it's a matter of picking the right firm and avoiding NYC, which I know you want to do, DankHill. A DC firm with no face time requirement, in a chiller practice group, would probably work out for you - or whatever other secondary markets you have the chance to land.

Back when we were in person I was usually in the office from about 10am-7pm and worked from home at night (after hitting the gym) - and I was usually one of the last people to leave on my floor, most attorneys left between 5 and 6pm to go have dinner with their kids and would log back on later. And like waldorf said, the key is probably to leave by year 3-ish before you become a midlevel (which is more fun but lots more work). I'm really enjoying life as a fourth year but it's much busier. To be fair, the compensation is pretty great by that level...

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Re: So you think you want BigLaw?

Post by jeff chiles » Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:41 pm

i didn't do biglaw (because it sounded awful and i am fundamentally a bum) but i agree that it's worth it if you want to end up in an ideal in-house job.

When i interviewed at a couple different F500 companies for in-house positions without that on my resume I felt like I was at a disadvantage when everyone I was interviewing with and other people in the departments all had more or less the same career progression of biglaw for a few years before coming to the company. And those positions were only ones where I had some relevant niche experience from the small firm I worked at out of law school (I was not getting interviews otherwise).

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