Weird law school classes

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Weird law school classes

Post by jeff chiles » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:07 pm

Did you take any weird law school classes? Like real niche courses or classes with no bearing on any law practice people normally are going to get into?

For me it was Payment Systems, which I know isn’t that weird since it’s a UCC class, but looking back it was strange to spend so much time learning about checks and negotiable instruments when I never planned to do anything related to that field. And it all seems kind of outdated now.

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Post by paperchaser » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:26 pm

Is this ^^^ the same thing as commercial paper?

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Post by jeff chiles » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:49 pm

paperchaser wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:26 pm
Is this ^^^ the same thing as commercial paper?
I think so? I know it had article 3 and 4

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Post by stego » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:41 pm

Do law schools even still teach Commercial Paper?

For me, so far the weirdest thing has probably been a housing law clinic representing tenants. Which isn't even that weird; there's a lot of need for it. Only thing that makes it weird is that outside of NYC and probably a handful of other municipalities, most jurisdictions lack meaningful legal protections for tenants.

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Post by Nony » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:50 pm

You know Commercial Paper is one of the bar topics, right?

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Post by ymmv » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:55 pm

Nony wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:50 pm
You know Commercial Paper is one of the bar topics, right?
I always hear this on LSL yet in three bars and two summers of bar study managed never once to encounter it.
George just lucky I guess.

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Post by Nony » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:26 pm

Pretty sure it was in one of my essay questions.

Mind you, I didn’t know anything about it and still don’t, but I don’t think that makes it a weird thing to have a class on.

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Post by ymmv » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:31 pm

yeah seems like utterly boring and normal law school fare.
my school was great about letting you take courses from other departments so I filled as much of my 3L schedule as I could with stuff like foreign languages and accounting.

I did have some great “law and” courses, healthcare, philosophy of political authority, that sort of thing.

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Post by Nony » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:38 pm

Yeah, my school had a number of "law and..." classes. Probably the weirdest was "creative writing for lawyers." (I took almost no bar stuff and took a lot of academia-style nerdy con law stuff.)

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Post by 1515 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:09 pm

ymmv wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:55 pm
Nony wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:50 pm
You know Commercial Paper is one of the bar topics, right?
I always hear this on LSL yet in three bars and two summers of bar study managed never once to encounter it.
well, ymmv I guess

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Post by stego » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:44 pm

Nony wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:50 pm
You know Commercial Paper is one of the bar topics, right?
No I have no idea what they test on the bar exam

My law school doesn’t offer a class called Commercial Paper. Assuming it still comes up, IDK which class would cover the topic.

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Post by Nony » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:22 am

Lots of these subjects have really varied course titles, and not all schools teach everything. Here’s one description for a class on this weird and obscure topic:
You buy a jacket at a clothing store. Do you pay with cash? A credit card? A debit card? A check? How does the shop get its payment if you do not use cash? How does the shop pay the garment maker in Costa Rica from whom it bought its stock of jackets? Check? ACH? Wire transfer? Letter of credit? You want to buy a house or a car and you are asked to sign a promissory note. Why is a bank comfortable giving you a lot of money in exchange for your signature on a piece of paper? All of these payment mechanisms are governed by state and federal laws and regulations that endeavor to make the payment system simple and quick while allocating the risk of loss in the event there is a mistake or fraud. In this class we will study various payment systems and the applicable federal and state statutes and regulations and cases governing the types of payment: negotiable instruments such as promissory notes and checks (Articles 3 and 4 of the Uniform Commercial Code), letters of credit (UCC Article 5, Uniform Customs & Practices 600 and International Standby Practices (“ISP98”), electronic funds transfers, credit and debit cards (UCC Article 4A, the Federal Electronic Funds Transfer Act, Expedited Funds Availability Act, Check 21 Act, Truth In Lending Act, the Consumer Credit Protection Act and the various applicable regulations, such as Reg CC, Reg E, Reg Z and Reg J).

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Post by CS1775 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:58 am

stego wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:44 pm
Nony wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:50 pm
You know Commercial Paper is one of the bar topics, right?
No I have no idea what they test on the bar exam

My law school doesn’t offer a class called Commercial Paper. Assuming it still comes up, IDK which class would cover the topic.
Probably something like "Secured Transactions", or a business/finance law course, considering commercial paper is an un-secured transaction (AFAIK, Commercial Paper is a promissory note made by a company to secure funding for short-term debt obligations, like payroll). I was a business undergrad, so we briefly touched on commercial paper in a finance class.

Re: weird classes, the weirdest I've been in so far as a 2L would be Remedies. I dropped the class due to recovering from a broken hand, though.

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Post by ggocat » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:08 pm

I did not take commercial paper, but it was on the bar. Yuck.

I took a "law and rhetoric" seminar that was just bologna. I imagine any "law and X" class is useless.

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Post by jeff chiles » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:13 pm

Law of the sea was a very interesting class

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Post by Kümmel » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:06 pm

Commercial Paper is no longer on the UBE. So most jx's don't test it anymore

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Post by MKC » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:47 pm

We had a Space law class. Unsurprisingly, it was impossible to get into.

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Post by waldorf » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:46 pm

My school has had a class on casino/gaming law before, and I’m really hoping they bring it back before I graduate

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Post by Nebby » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:07 pm

Nony wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:22 am
Lots of these subjects have really varied course titles, and not all schools teach everything. Here’s one description for a class on this weird and obscure topic:
You buy a jacket at a clothing store. Do you pay with cash? A credit card? A debit card? A check? How does the shop get its payment if you do not use cash? How does the shop pay the garment maker in Costa Rica from whom it bought its stock of jackets? Check? ACH? Wire transfer? Letter of credit? You want to buy a house or a car and you are asked to sign a promissory note. Why is a bank comfortable giving you a lot of money in exchange for your signature on a piece of paper? All of these payment mechanisms are governed by state and federal laws and regulations that endeavor to make the payment system simple and quick while allocating the risk of loss in the event there is a mistake or fraud. In this class we will study various payment systems and the applicable federal and state statutes and regulations and cases governing the types of payment: negotiable instruments such as promissory notes and checks (Articles 3 and 4 of the Uniform Commercial Code), letters of credit (UCC Article 5, Uniform Customs & Practices 600 and International Standby Practices (“ISP98”), electronic funds transfers, credit and debit cards (UCC Article 4A, the Federal Electronic Funds Transfer Act, Expedited Funds Availability Act, Check 21 Act, Truth In Lending Act, the Consumer Credit Protection Act and the various applicable regulations, such as Reg CC, Reg E, Reg Z and Reg J).
You pay with card and pretend you didn't swipe right on the cashier a few days before

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Post by Mikey » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:03 am

waldorf wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:46 pm
My school has had a class on casino/gaming law before, and I’m really hoping they bring it back before I graduate
that seems so interesting. i'd love to take that

e: i've looked at cornell's classes and i don't think we have any weird/cool classes like that. ugh, lameeeeee

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Post by Hennessy » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:32 am

Indie Film Clinic is the most popular of course

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Post by blueapple » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:44 am

michigan has an extremely popular class called Bloodfeuds, but I didn't take it.
An investigation of disputing and dispute processing in Iceland of the saga age with side glances at pre-Conquest England and some contemporary pre-industrial, kin-based cultures. Course materials include translations of Icelandic family sagas and early law; there are also assigned readings in secondary historical and anthropological works.

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Post by DOT » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:42 pm

MKC wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:47 pm
We had a Space law class. Unsurprisingly, it was impossible to get into.
What school was this at? Feel free to PM for anonymity if you'd like

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Post by Stanford4me » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:53 pm

I took a course called "Resisting Injustice"

It was a class where we studied the patriarchy and how it impacts society (I don't remember anything even remotely related to the law being discussed), and my final paper was an inspection of Male-Male expressions of friendship particularly within the Christian community. The last page of the paper was a blown-up picture of me giving my best friend a piggyback ride. I got an A.

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Post by Slytherpuff » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:37 pm

Oooh are we bringing this thread back? I took a mafia law class but it ended up just being a condensed/lighter version of crim pro.

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