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by 64Fl
Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:44 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Anyone here who left a safe/golden-handcuffs career?
Replies: 6
Views: 1064

Re: Anyone here who left a safe/golden-handcuffs career?

interesting. yeah with money being somewhat same it makes sense. anyone here who left a lot of money to pursue something much low-paying or get a degree pure out of interest/passion? Haven't yet, but this is the plan in a little over another year. I'm expecting a 70% pay cut. I know it'll be worth ...
by 64Fl
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:46 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Employment Statistics by School - C/O 2020 rolling out + C/O 2012-2019 data
Replies: 759
Views: 197847

Re: Employment Statistics by School - C/O 2019 rolling out + C/O 2012-2017 data

Well, it certainly attracted me. I was too debt averse and jumped at a full ride and stipend. I assume as more alumni become people with a say in the matter at firms, firms may be seeking out more Wash U students. Anecdotally, I don’t know of anyone from my school who worked at my firm before I did...
by 64Fl
Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:00 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Employment Statistics by School - C/O 2020 rolling out + C/O 2012-2019 data
Replies: 759
Views: 197847

Re: Employment Statistics by School - C/O 2020 rolling out + C/O 2012-2019 data

Northwestern - 74.6% (+3.3%) As a Northwestern grad, the 2020 report is pretty wild. The BL+FC number is up, which is cool and all, but 15 students were unemployed and seeking work. That's up from 3 students in 2019 and 4 students in 2018. The pandemic obviously created some losers in this mess.
by 64Fl
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:24 am
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: duke, uva, cornell, or retake
Replies: 111
Views: 14054

Re: duke, uva, cornell, or retake

100% defer to Slyther on the COL differences. My time in DC is solely from visits and apartments.com shopping while I considered starting there, so my cost expectations are more theoretical. Slyther has actually rented in both markets. Even if you can only do $60k, you'll knock your debt out in 1.5i...
by 64Fl
Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:54 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: duke, uva, cornell, or retake
Replies: 111
Views: 14054

Re: duke, uva, cornell, or retake

Thank you for your input. Earlier, you alluded to the ability to pay off 70K in loans in one year. Is that really possible? I honestly feel like this is something that 0Ls say all the time but can never follow through with b/c of the sacrifices involved, so it was interesting to hear it from someon...
by 64Fl
Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:56 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: duke, uva, cornell, or retake
Replies: 111
Views: 14054

Re: duke, uva, cornell, or retake

I guess my trepidation in terms of choosing Duke derives from my aversion to NYC biglaw. I get the sense that UVA simply does better in terms of placement in non-NYC biglaw. Clearly, there's some (although maybe not a huge) edge for UVA over Duke in terms of DC. I also get the sense (per the existe...
by 64Fl
Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:39 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: duke, uva, cornell, or retake
Replies: 111
Views: 14054

Re: duke, uva, cornell, or retake

icechicken wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:21 pm
64Fl wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:11 pm
true southerners [...] Florida
lol

otherwise great post
I didn't know any other way to describe people who'd prefer the FL market lol.
by 64Fl
Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:11 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: duke, uva, cornell, or retake
Replies: 111
Views: 14054

Re: duke, uva, cornell, or retake

For me, I'd take $75-$90k at Duke over $110k at UVA. Duke and UVA have essentially identical employment numbers (both ~62% BL and ~14% FC). UVA places ~21% in DC and Duke places ~14%. Some of that is likely self-selection (if you wanted DC biglaw, perhaps you were more likely to choose UVA in the fi...
by 64Fl
Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:40 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: duke, uva, cornell, or retake
Replies: 111
Views: 14054

Re: duke, uva, cornell, or retake

I'm late to this thread, but UVA at $110k seems very defensible. $110k can also be knocked out very quickly in biglaw (2yrs, easily). I also think that you need to consider that say you think you could dedicate $70k of your first year salary towards loans. If that's the case, then if you sit out a y...
by 64Fl
Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:04 am
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: Simpson v. Debevoise for Corporate
Replies: 6
Views: 1160

Re: Simpson v. Debevoise for Corporate

From the corporate perspective (both M&A/CM), STB is considered a better firm by a decent margin. For associates, both firms are going to be lockstep years 1-8 and pay full bonus (or close to) for pretty much everyone, as top NY firms really pride themselves in that. Your hours are going to suck at ...
by 64Fl
Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:45 am
Forum: Clerkships
Topic: Writing Sample Help
Replies: 8
Views: 1157

Re: Writing Sample Help

I did some writing during my 1L summer, but I can't use those samples (employer policy). I worked full-time for the gov't for a semester too, but I was writing draft decisions for the presidential-appointed board members (think NLRB decisions), so all of those bear the names of the board members. I ...
by 64Fl
Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:28 pm
Forum: Clerkships
Topic: Writing Sample Help
Replies: 8
Views: 1157

Re: Writing Sample Help

pancakes3 wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:47 pm
i used a brief that i wrote at my job 1L summer. if it's for clerkships, your instincts are right - you need briefs. are you a 2L?
I'm a junior associate doing transactional law
by 64Fl
Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:29 pm
Forum: Clerkships
Topic: Writing Sample Help
Replies: 8
Views: 1157

Writing Sample Help

What the hell do you use for a writing sample (especially when I need two for some clerkships)? I could dig up my 1L brief and spruce it up. Otherwise, I haven't really written anything, unless you count a seminar paper and student note, both of which I would be deeply embarrassed to submit because ...
by 64Fl
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:33 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: WFH in biglaw post COVID?
Replies: 9
Views: 2133

Re: WFH in biglaw post COVID?

The Chair of my firm said that we will not be doing away with office space totally or allowing anyone to exclusively WFH, which I found a bit of a surprise given our culture. That being said, the equity partners in my group have made it very clear that if you want to be in the office 2-3 days of the...
by 64Fl
Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:21 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: 1yr too soon to bail on biglaw?
Replies: 13
Views: 2324

Re: 1yr too soon to bail on biglaw?

I don't like the hours and the stress. I'm expected to bill between 175-200 hours per month. I'd ideally like a job where I can bill around 1800 and make like 75% of my current salary (I have 200k in law school loans - i'd still like to be able to service the loan and save comfortably if possible)....
by 64Fl
Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:57 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: 1yr too soon to bail on biglaw?
Replies: 13
Views: 2324

Re: 1yr too soon to bail on biglaw?

What is it exactly that you don’t like about your job? If you can clarify that, you will avoid going to a second job that has the same bad characteristics. Yeah, I think this would be helpful. Lifestyle is a bit broad, although you did mention a firm with chiller hours in your post. Is it specifica...
by 64Fl
Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:32 am
Forum: Public Interest and Government
Topic: Non-Honors BigFed Hiring
Replies: 3
Views: 853

Re: Non-Honors BigFed Hiring

Story wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:25 am
you can lateral to other agencies in different cities much more easily once you are in the fed system.
Is this due to an official preference (like the ones veterans get for some jobs) or an unofficial one?
by 64Fl
Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:42 pm
Forum: Public Interest and Government
Topic: Non-Honors BigFed Hiring
Replies: 3
Views: 853

Non-Honors BigFed Hiring

I'm trying to do this biglaw schtick for as short of a time as possible. I've always had the itch to do PI/Gov't work but was (and still am) spooked by PSLF/IBR. I'll pay off my debt in about 1.5yrs, and I'm curious what moving on looks like. My T14's clerkship advisor has said that I'd be competiti...
by 64Fl
Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:00 am
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: biglaw job security: better to dig in with 1 rainmaker or diversify work?
Replies: 2
Views: 1719

Re: biglaw job security: better to dig in with 1 rainmaker or diversify work?

Personally, I think diversifying your work with a few (not many) partners is the best approach to long-term survival (if equity is a dream in your mind). If you can do significant work for 2-4 different partners, I think you're in a way better position than both someone who has worked with 15 partne...
by 64Fl
Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:59 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Laid off from Big Law, Considering Going into Teaching
Replies: 5
Views: 2297

Re: Laid off from Big Law, Considering Going into Teaching

notachicken wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:42 pm
why don't you just do tutoring. pays pretty well and you can make sure you like teaching.
I think this is a great idea. If you're willing to dust off your LSAT prep books, there is a lot of money to be made too. I went to school with folks who charged $50/hr.+ for LSAT tutoring.
by 64Fl
Thu May 07, 2020 7:04 am
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Employment Statistics by School - C/O 2020 rolling out + C/O 2012-2019 data
Replies: 759
Views: 197847

Re: Employment Statistics by School - C/O 2019 rolling out + C/O 2012-2017 data

Northwestern gets such a raw deal in these statistics. This year is -4.7%, but the great outcomes are actually probably UP. That 10% JD/MBA class really skews things, because the Kellogg MBA leads to some very nice gigs. Last year only 8 students went into JD advantage roles. This year it was 21. If...
by 64Fl
Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:56 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: LLM in tax first, JD second
Replies: 7
Views: 2139

Re: LLM in tax first, JD second

If the foreign-trained lawyer took the LLM in tax first and had great grades, do you think her chances of getting to a T13 JD school will go up or not? As chicken has said, your LSAT+GPA Rating is 95% of the game. Maybe your good grades help if you're right on the border, but they will not overcome...
by 64Fl
Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:27 am
Forum: Law School Classes
Topic: Class of 2020 - Not quite how we drew it up
Replies: 69
Views: 31056

Re: Class of 2020 - Not quite how we drew it up

UVA2B wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:13 pm
18,000+ words later, that year long independent research project is/was shit. Thank god for P/F.
I've never read "good" legal research, so don't be too tough on yourself. It's all made up and the points don't matter, or so I've heard it said.
by 64Fl
Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:59 am
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: LLM in tax first, JD second
Replies: 7
Views: 2139

Re: LLM in tax first, JD second

i thought int'l atty's don't need a JD to practice, just a "law degree" = LLM. LLM>JD bc of grading/shorter. They don't. An LLM is sufficient, but the job prospects are significantly worse. OP, if you're going to do a JD anyway, I'd just do a JD first. If you go to a T13, there's a very good chance...
by 64Fl
Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:16 pm
Forum: What Are My Chances?
Topic: Dropping a class hurting chances?
Replies: 8
Views: 2365

Re: Dropping a class hurting chances?

I applied to law school with a W on my transcript. LSAC did not count it as an F. As pneumonia said, they only count punitive withdrawals as an F, which it doesn't like you have here. In other words, 7sage is incorrect, and your GPA will probably be ~3.71.