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by SmokeytheBear
Thu May 16, 2019 3:39 pm
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: Smokey’s Guide to Biglaw Summer Associate
Replies: 86
Views: 11177

Re: Smokey’s Guide to Biglaw Summer Associate

UVA2B wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 3:35 pm

Good to see you, Smokey.
'been preoccupied putting out some fires in this great state of California.
by SmokeytheBear
Thu May 16, 2019 3:09 pm
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: Smokey’s Guide to Biglaw Summer Associate
Replies: 86
Views: 11177

Re: Smokey’s Guide to Biglaw Summer Associate

How do you handle being assigned a lot of work from different attorneys during your 1L SA? I have a friend who said he worked 10.5 hours by her second day. For anyone who's had both a 1L and 2L summer in biglaw, are there any differences between the 2/how the SA is treated/work load? This will be s...
by SmokeytheBear
Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:58 am
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Los Angeles Market Associate Taking Questions -- OCI and BID LIST HELP
Replies: 437
Views: 37009

Re: Los Angeles Market Associate Taking Questions -- OCI and BID LIST HELP

how hard is to lateral from SF/PA to LA doing EC/VC work? thanks! Shouldnt be hard so long as you have a couple to a few years of experience, are currently doing EC/VC work now, and you're at one of the good firms. I know Gunderson, Latham, WSGR, Goodwin, and Kirkland are all currently looking for ...
by SmokeytheBear
Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:17 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Let go from big law firm after first year; next steps?
Replies: 8
Views: 1830

Re: Let go from big law firm after first year; next steps?

anonymous- wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:48 pm
riot wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:33 pm
What market are you in now and are you lit or transactional?
Should I say which market? I don't know if employers are reading LSL like they did TLS.

In any case, I am in transactional.
Did employers actually read TLS?
by SmokeytheBear
Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:00 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Big Law Hours Check
Replies: 31
Views: 4763

Re: Big Law Hours Check

This thread feels like an unhealthy dick swinging contest. Yeah. I think there is some utility in this--if you are fucking slammed knowing that other people out there are also getting double fisted. But there is so much hours lumpiness intra-group/intra-firm that doing intra-market or intra-discipl...
by SmokeytheBear
Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:25 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Los Angeles Market Associate Taking Questions -- OCI and BID LIST HELP
Replies: 437
Views: 37009

Re: Los Angeles Market Associate Taking Questions -- OCI and BID LIST HELP

Hey Smokey (and anyone else who sees this and can advise), I am a 1L at a CCN looking into trying to snag a 1L SA. Top choice is LA (which is also where I wish to end up after law school). Any advice in terms of which firms to target, whether I need to send things out at 00:01am on Dec 1st, etc? Th...
by SmokeytheBear
Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:20 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Does Biglaw Get Better for Corporate Associates?
Replies: 2
Views: 872

Re: Does Biglaw Get Better for Corporate Associates?

No matter where you are, your hours are going to be unpredictable--that's just the nature of biglaw and corporate especially. Aside form that, it reads like your firm or office has bad culture. Certain corporate departments can be like this, but it's not the norm or should be expected. You should be...
by SmokeytheBear
Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:03 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Los Angeles Market Associate Taking Questions -- OCI and BID LIST HELP
Replies: 437
Views: 37009

Re: Los Angeles Market Associate Taking Questions

This actually sounds great.....WAY different than what others have said about K&E (including the LA office), but the facetime requirement (or lack thereof) is actually quite surprising. I'm looking into corporate as my main interest, and if you would be willing to talk to me separately via PM (sinc...
by SmokeytheBear
Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:13 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Los Angeles Market Associate Taking Questions -- OCI and BID LIST HELP
Replies: 437
Views: 37009

Re: Los Angeles Market Associate Taking Questions

This actually sounds great.....WAY different than what others have said about K&E (including the LA office), but the facetime requirement (or lack thereof) is actually quite surprising. I'm looking into corporate as my main interest, and if you would be willing to talk to me separately via PM (sinc...
by SmokeytheBear
Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:26 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Los Angeles Market Associate Taking Questions -- OCI and BID LIST HELP
Replies: 437
Views: 37009

Re: Los Angeles Market Associate Taking Questions

How would you rank the QoL and work (in terms of interest) from the following firms (LA/CC corporate)? Latham, Skadden, Milbank, Kirkland, OMM, S&C, GDC Not sure what you mean by "work (in terms of interest)" From what I know: Latham: I have heard that facetime is generally pretty low. There are th...
by SmokeytheBear
Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:03 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Los Angeles Market Associate Taking Questions -- OCI and BID LIST HELP
Replies: 437
Views: 37009

Re: Los Angeles Market Associate Taking Questions -- OCI and BID LIST HELP

Heard rumblings of OMM financial struggles and this on top of those rumblings doesn't project the greatest image. Any real concern in going there? I've been hearing about financial issues at OMM for several years now, first from senior associates who had laterealled from there to my old firm. Not s...
by SmokeytheBear
Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:33 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Is it possible to start in a new practice group at another firm?
Replies: 6
Views: 1003

Re: Is it possible to start in a new practice group at another firm?

Yeah it happens a decent amount. How have you seen it happen? Need advice. Thanks! Probably by (1) having excellent academics and (2) coming from a top pier firm or a top firm to a *lesser* firm. This is correct. This has basically been the experience of the several people I know who did it. Most o...
by SmokeytheBear
Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:17 pm
Forum: What Are My Chances?
Topic: 3.85 HYPS, 172, Truly Unique Softs (?)
Replies: 21
Views: 2932

Re: 3.85 HYPS, 172, Truly Unique Softs (?)

Also, just wanted to flag that the word 'unique' shouldn't/can't be modified. Hi Smokey, Normally I refrain from snark, but this seems like an ample opportunity to use some. Your claim is true for the first definition of unique, meaning "being the only one of its kind." But I was using unique in it...
by SmokeytheBear
Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:44 am
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Consumer Class Actoin v. Securities
Replies: 23
Views: 2315

Re: Consumer Class Actoin v. Securities

This type of class action is literally a public service. Let’s be careful here with the use of the word “literally.” You are not literally doing a public service. If you were literally doing a public service, you wouldn’t be taking 40% of what the the slice of the public you’re helping was awarded,...
by SmokeytheBear
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:12 pm
Forum: What Are My Chances?
Topic: 3.85 HYPS, 172, Truly Unique Softs (?)
Replies: 21
Views: 2932

Re: 3.85 HYPS, 172, Truly Unique Softs (?)

Also, just wanted to flag that the word 'unique' shouldn't/can't be modified.
by SmokeytheBear
Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:55 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Consumer Class Actoin v. Securities
Replies: 23
Views: 2315

Re: Consumer Class Actoin v. Securities

I dont think that prestige is really a concern on the plaintiff side of the bar.
by SmokeytheBear
Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:08 pm
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: Los Angeles 2018 OCI (USC/UCLA)
Replies: 28
Views: 3192

Re: Los Angeles 2018 OCI (USC/UCLA)

Guest wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:23 pm
this whole process seems unpredictable.
this is it. don't try and rhyme or reason it too much. unless you are fucking awful at interviewing, it's just a crapshoot.
by SmokeytheBear
Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:24 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Corporate lateraling up
Replies: 6
Views: 1067

Re: Corporate lateraling up

"Hiring Partner" my ass . . . It's not going to preclude you from lateraling up. Many of the moving parts of a million dollar deal are the same as a billion dollar deal, there's just more parts (e.g. you're more likely to be dealing with public companies in the larger deals, which have more formalit...
by SmokeytheBear
Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:18 pm
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: Los Angeles 2018 OCI (USC/UCLA)
Replies: 28
Views: 3192

Re: Los Angeles 2018 OCI (USC/UCLA)

sss wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:48 pm
SmokeytheBear wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:08 am
Tag me if you want any assistance
do cbs go out in waves or should we assume, now that it's been a week, we aren't going to get a cb from firms that haven't notified us?
No news is good news.
by SmokeytheBear
Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:17 pm
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: Los Angeles 2018 OCI (USC/UCLA)
Replies: 28
Views: 3192

Re: Los Angeles 2018 OCI (USC/UCLA)

Guest wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:02 pm
SmokeytheBear wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:08 am
Tag me if you want any assistance
Should we be sending thank you emails after callbacks?
There was a vigorous debate about this on the old board with equally good points on each side. I used to be of the opinion they should be sent, but now I think don’t send them.
by SmokeytheBear
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:30 am
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Milbank Scale
Replies: 7
Views: 1177

Re: Milbank Scale

If you’re happy at your firm, stay there. There are too many unknowns when lateraling and, despite making more money, the people could suck and the work could blow. True endowment effect.

Only take the non profit job if you would have regardless.
by SmokeytheBear
Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:44 am
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: Los Angeles 2018 OCI (USC/UCLA)
Replies: 28
Views: 3192

Re: Los Angeles 2018 OCI (USC/UCLA)

Guest wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:20 am
SmokeytheBear wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:08 am
Tag me if you want any assistance
Probably a question you’ve answered a million times but if a firm gives person A, B, and C callbacks, and you didn’t get one that same time, it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re out of the running right? No news is possibly still ok news?
No news is good news.
by SmokeytheBear
Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:08 am
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: Los Angeles 2018 OCI (USC/UCLA)
Replies: 28
Views: 3192

Re: Los Angeles 2018 OCI (USC/UCLA)

Tag me if you want any assistance
by SmokeytheBear
Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:01 pm
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: Debevoise thread on tls
Replies: 29
Views: 4342

Re: Debevoise thread on tls

I have no idea whether this is true or not, but Pro tip: if you’re a person of color looking to climb the biglaw ladder, know that biglaw isn’t for you. It’s dominated and controlled by a certain group of people. They’ll help you and promote you to the extent it will help them signal virtue, but no...
by SmokeytheBear
Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:21 am
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: Debevoise thread on tls
Replies: 29
Views: 4342

Re: Debevoise thread on tls

I have no idea whether this is true or not, but Pro tip: if you’re a person of color looking to climb the biglaw ladder, know that biglaw isn’t for you. It’s dominated and controlled by a certain group of people. They’ll help you and promote you to the extent it will help them signal virtue, but no...