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by jeff chiles
Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:47 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: "Going Solo" Immediately After Law School?
Replies: 4
Views: 231

Re: "Going Solo" Immediately After Law School?

i understand wanting to solo straight out, but even working for a crappy attorney or small firm for a year would be immensely valuable before going solo. there are a lot of little things you can learn during that time like pricing, basic marketing, local rules & court quirks (dumb stuff like where t...
by jeff chiles
Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:56 pm
Forum: Application Process
Topic: What are my chances? At 32 years old, Should I try to go to law-school. Please give me your honest feedback.
Replies: 56
Views: 8439

Re: What are my chances? At 32 years old, Should I try to go to law-school. Please give me your honest feedback.

Plenty of people get married and have kids in law school - it’s a lot but I’m not sure it’s any “worse” than doing so when you are working as an attorney later on (in many ways I think it’s easier but that’s just me). You don’t have to freeze everything else going on in your personal life to do law ...
by jeff chiles
Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:07 pm
Forum: Transfer Admissions
Topic: [Delete]
Replies: 21
Views: 1671

Re: TTT--Is my life over?

I mean, there are a million other kinds of jobs besides math, coding, working with kids, politics, and law. Seriously and most of them don’t require 3 years and six figures of debt to get I don’t think law school is even a terrible option but be real about wanting a career path with more prestige a...
by jeff chiles
Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:21 pm
Forum: Legal News and Law Firm Gossip
Topic: Interesting Decisions
Replies: 26
Views: 7281

Re: Interesting Decisions

Yeah that one is great too. He has a long running suit against Best Buy for a bait and switch I think he also protested outside of it for a few days. In his civil rights cases based on his own criminal issues he cited several Iron Maiden song lyrics and album art in his briefing. The guy is maybe no...
by jeff chiles
Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:23 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Dropping Out and Reapplying
Replies: 114
Views: 18159

Re: Dropping Out and Reapplying

Fordham is like a 7500 mile/year base A3 lease
by jeff chiles
Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:45 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Dropping Out and Reapplying
Replies: 114
Views: 18159

Re: Dropping Out and Reapplying

idk like if your lease is up and you need a car, and you really want the AMG model and can swing the added cost, but due to allocation/supply issues you can’t get one for maybe another year so you settle for the still very nice, less exciting model, I can see being a little bummed knowing that you ...
by jeff chiles
Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Dropping Out and Reapplying
Replies: 114
Views: 18159

Re: Dropping Out and Reapplying

idk like if your lease is up and you need a car, and you really want the AMG model and can swing the added cost, but due to allocation/supply issues you can’t get one for maybe another year so you settle for the still very nice, less exciting model, I can see being a little bummed knowing that you s...
by jeff chiles
Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:47 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Talking politics at work: guidelines? Guidance?
Replies: 31
Views: 7436

Re: Talking politics at work: guidelines? Guidance?

The bigger issue is feeling like you have nothing interesting to talk about other than politics. Idk if you’re giving yourself enough credit but there have to be some other things, even seemingly dull things, to talk about at work other than politics. Like I’ve always been the go to guy at work to t...
by jeff chiles
Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:43 am
Forum: Clerkships
Topic: Is clerking a scam?
Replies: 9
Views: 3583

Re: Is clerking a scam?

I agree that I hear way more horror stories than positive stories from classmates. I think a third of my friends who clerked left early or moved to a different judge, but these are all state clerkships and not federal so idk if that’s what people talk about when they promote clerking.
by jeff chiles
Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:32 am
Forum: Clerkships
Topic: Does a SCOTUS Clerkship Matter?
Replies: 20
Views: 5477

Re: Does a SCOTUS Clerkship Matter?

I think the better way to look at it would be focusing on the definite advantages (dollar amount of clerkship bonus and whatever intrinsic value working this job would have to you) vs what you think you’ll lose or miss out on personally by staying in DC another year. I don’t think we can answer that...
by jeff chiles
Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:53 pm
Forum: Clerkships
Topic: Does a SCOTUS Clerkship Matter?
Replies: 20
Views: 5477

Re: Does a SCOTUS Clerkship Matter?

What would you do if you didn’t do (or try for) SCOTUS after the clerkship? If the plan is to do big law for a couple years anyhow it seems better to try for the clerkship and get that big bonus/even better experience for any firm in any part of the country. Other than the extra time in DC or commut...
by jeff chiles
Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:33 pm
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: Cancelling an accepted offer
Replies: 9
Views: 4139

Re: Cancelling an accepted offer

I know this would burn a bridge at the firm but does it really harm you with other firms? I work in a small market and have never heard of firms communicating this info or blackballing people that way. Definitely agree it’s dumb to renege if it’s just a perceived prestige thing but if it’s a major s...
by jeff chiles
Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:47 am
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Law Clerk at Two Jobs at Once?
Replies: 34
Views: 5702

Re: Law Clerk at Two Jobs at Once?

if you are at a 2L at a T14 with a presumably big law SA lined up I have no idea why you are doing this why have potential conflicts from 2 small time law clerk jobs that could even remotely jeopardize your anticipated SA and post grad employment. The obligation to disclose doesn’t come from policie...
by jeff chiles
Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:59 am
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Law Clerk at Two Jobs at Once?
Replies: 34
Views: 5702

Re: Law Clerk at Two Jobs at Once?

Even if there are no ethical issues there’s a chance one or both firms have malpractice policies that prevent covered persons from moonlighting without clearing it with the firm and using the firms standard engagement letter/conflicts process. Money doesn’t make something OK or not but an extra 100-...
by jeff chiles
Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:19 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Law Clerk at Two Jobs at Once?
Replies: 34
Views: 5702

Re: Law Clerk at Two Jobs at Once?

If you need money get an extra job at school not at another firm or just quit once you find a firm that will give you more hours/money.

I’m sure you could get away with it but it’s not right and you know better as a law student.
by jeff chiles
Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:11 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: How much did you go to office after giving notice?
Replies: 3
Views: 2020

Re: How much did you go to office after giving notice?

Came in at 9, left exactly at 5, took long lunches most days. I didn’t have much to do but helped with whatever someone asked me to do, which was a lot of housekeeping and organization stuff. It was a weird couple of days because people mostly didn’t take it well. Not coming in at all or working ver...
by jeff chiles
Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:35 am
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: did I get an offer? Disclaimer: I am stupid
Replies: 4
Views: 2682

Re: did I get an offer? Disclaimer: I am stupid

Did they give you a salary? I am pretty sure it was not an offer but we need more details. I don’t think most employers care about seeing an updated resume after they hire you but some would want an updated transcript.
by jeff chiles
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:37 am
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: Thoughts on expressing a specific niche interest?
Replies: 19
Views: 3440

Re: Thoughts on expressing a specific niche interest?

Also need a very good answer as to why. This is the biggest issue I had even with niche groups I was genuinely interested in. And it can easily backfire - I am confident I talked myself out of possible offers by going on about how interested I was in a given specialty only to have someone say “well...
by jeff chiles
Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:55 am
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: Views on Reapplying?
Replies: 29
Views: 5248

Re: Views on Reapplying?

It’s normal as a law student to attach a ton of importance to every job related thing you do and overthink it, since it is extremely important to you to get a job. But you can’t let it keep you from applying like crazy and following up on jobs you really want.
by jeff chiles
Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:59 am
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: Views on Reapplying?
Replies: 29
Views: 5248

Re: Views on Reapplying?

Yeah still reapply as long as you aren’t emailing them or calling to follow up afterwards nobody will care
by jeff chiles
Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:30 am
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: Views on Reapplying?
Replies: 29
Views: 5248

Re: Views on Reapplying?

As a 3L and then lateral in my first couple years of law practice I applied and got offers at several firms, including big firms, that rejected me during OCI. In one case I applied both during 2L and 3L, interviewed 2L and heard nothing 3L, and then got an offer out of the blue the next year. Every ...
by jeff chiles
Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: How to turn down an offer at the end of a summer
Replies: 4
Views: 1976

Re: How to turn down an offer at the end of a summer

Yeah the exit interview (and any other interaction with the firm) should be handled the same way as if your goal was to stay there
by jeff chiles
Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:48 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Thank you notes
Replies: 6
Views: 2613

Re: Thank you notes

I could never bring myself to send them idk if they are worth it or not. It seems so unnecessary for interviews compared to times when a person actually goes out of their way to help you.
by jeff chiles
Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:51 pm
Forum: General Legal Employment/Post Grad Discussion
Topic: Healthcare
Replies: 6
Views: 1433

Re: Healthcare

LaLaLaw covers what I think most firm healthcare practice groups do. It’s less a subject matter specialty than orienting business toward healthcare providers. There are distinct federal and state regulatory issues that affect healthcare entity M&A, employment, insurance, and risk management differen...
by jeff chiles
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:26 pm
Forum: OCI, Biglaw Summers, and Other First Private Sector Jobs
Topic: hourly pay at mid size firm in secondary market
Replies: 5
Views: 904

Re: hourly pay at mid size firm in secondary market

That does not sound like an unreasonably low hourly rate for a summer/school year law clerk at a mid sized firm in a secondary market. I would almost certainly expect that the rate they pay associates is higher than 25/hr, I worked at a couple small firms and there was no connection between the hour...