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by icechicken
Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:23 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Illinois $$$$ vs Indiana Bloomington $$$
Replies: 8
Views: 114

Re: Illinois $$$$ vs Indiana Bloomington $$$

https://www.lstreports.com/compare/illinois/indiana/

Illinois has better employment numbers, although it's not much better for biglaw, and is cheaper even before the scholarship. I agree with Cav that you'd need a better reason than "they courted me" to pick IU over UIUC here.
by icechicken
Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:58 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: HLS ($$) vs. UVA ($$$)
Replies: 25
Views: 557

Re: HLS ($$) vs. UVA ($$$)

Additional 70k is half a year setback financially? How did you come up with that math? It translates to more like 2 solid additional years of biglaw. 70k, factoring in interest, will be closer to 100k by the time you pay off, and my guess would be that most biglaw junior associates are able to cont...
by icechicken
Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:52 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Employment Statistics by School - C/O 2018 rolling out + C/O 2012-2017 data
Replies: 644
Views: 46204

Re: Employment Statistics by School - C/O 2018 rolling out + C/O 2012-2017 data

Also, Northwestern just released their JD-MBA numbers separately, and it's by far the largest percentage of BL folks in that crowd in at least 8 years (21/27 in 100+ firms). So, for the first time in a long time (maybe ever), NU's BL+FC percentage actually dropped when you remove the JD-MBA's from ...
by icechicken
Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:03 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Penn vs. Yale/Harvard (PhD/JD)
Replies: 3
Views: 188

Re: Penn vs. Yale/Harvard (PhD/JD)

I forget why I know this but Penn is a powerhouse for early American history and, while you're right that HLS has a bit of an edge, Penn Law is still prestigious enough to get the attention of an academic hiring committee. The funding and not having to bounce between Cambridge/New Haven are each hug...
by icechicken
Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:09 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: NU ~$$$$ vs UVA ~$$$
Replies: 36
Views: 882

Re: NU ~$$$$ vs UVA ~$$$

If the students in a school do not like each other and do not spend time with each other and thereby do not cultivate relationships with each other I’d worry that I’d be missing out on clients and potential jobs later in my career and that is indeed worth money. Your first note is appreciated, thou...
by icechicken
Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:19 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: NYU VS COLUMBIA (but different than the other times)
Replies: 20
Views: 557

Re: NYU VS COLUMBIA (but different than the other times)

Either choice is great, but if you choose Columbia be prepared to lose in basketball every year . The Deans' Cup is an annual charity basketball game between the law schools of Columbia University (CLS), one of the top law schools in the country, and New York University (NYU), one of the top law sc...
by icechicken
Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:46 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: NYU VS COLUMBIA (but different than the other times)
Replies: 20
Views: 557

Re: NYU VS COLUMBIA (but different than the other times)

I'd be a bit more bullish on the no-contingency angle. 5 years is a long time. If you're not a true believer who's >90% sure about working in qualifying PI employment, then getting the same deal at Columbia, a peer school, with no such stipulation seems like a no-brainer.
by icechicken
Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:42 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: University of Denver vs. St. Mary's - Opinions PLEASE!
Replies: 23
Views: 344

Re: University of Denver vs. St. Mary's - Opinions PLEASE!

flowerpower92 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:41 pm
To be very clear, I have relatives that graduated from st marys and are now Exxon execs.
Could they set you up with a job? Because then getting a cheap-ish JD from St. Mary's might make sense.
by icechicken
Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:36 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: University of Denver vs. St. Mary's - Opinions PLEASE!
Replies: 23
Views: 344

Re: University of Denver vs. St. Mary's - Opinions PLEASE!

To back up UVA's advice above, which is sound: According to the most recent data - 1.8% of Denver graduates end up in Texas. - 1% of St. Mary's graduates get jobs at big firms. These schools are about as bad as one can imagine for your goals, and the J.D. on your resume will make other entry-points ...
by icechicken
Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:49 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Weighing Scholarship vs ranking
Replies: 52
Views: 833

Re: Weighing Scholarship vs ranking

Probably shouldn't even ask but would you say the same about UCI? UCI, at a low price, would be a fine choice. It’s well-regraded in the area and demonstrably places a decent portion of its class into big firms (and the remainder mostly get legal jobs of some kind). In other words, between ranking ...
by icechicken
Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Weighing Scholarship vs ranking
Replies: 52
Views: 833

Re: Weighing Scholarship vs ranking

OP, what I mean by allergic to shellfish is that: if you want a high-paying legal job in California, all these options are terrible. Just objectively bad choices that make no sense. I can’t even recommend Pepperdine on the basis of minimizing your financial exposure to this mistake because that scho...
by icechicken
Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Weighing Scholarship vs ranking
Replies: 52
Views: 833

Re: Weighing Scholarship vs ranking

“Should I eat crab or lobster for dinner tonight? I’m allergic to shellfish”

“I don’t instead on eating something other than crab or lobster; please stop telling me to go to the grocery store for something else”
by icechicken
Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:08 am
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Toll PI Scholar vs. Dillard
Replies: 4
Views: 256

Re: Toll PI Scholar vs. Dillard

I'd note that any difference in summer funding is probably more than outweighed by the lower CoL in Charlottesville during the school year.
by icechicken
Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:27 am
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Thank you!
Replies: 59
Views: 2791

Re: UPDATED NYU $$$$ vs Penn $$$$ vs UVA $$$$ vs Duke $$$$ vs Harvard at Sticker

NYU gives you a substantially better shot at the unicorny end of your goals range (Skadden/EJW fellowships, academia, etc), NYC is better for hustling since a lot of the private-side firms you want are there (I believe Nebby can speak more to this), and yeah, culture counts for something too. My imp...
by icechicken
Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:16 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Thank you!
Replies: 59
Views: 2791

Re: UPDATED NYU $$$$ vs Penn $$$$ vs UVA $$$$ vs Duke $$$$ vs Harvard at Sticker

Yeah, these are all great choices but a full-ride at NYU seems pretty close to perfect for your goals. The ~$30k margin isn't pocket change, though, so I'd take a hard look at the financial situation (especially since you're getting help from your family) before pulling the trigger.
by icechicken
Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:06 am
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Cornell ($) v USC ($$$) for Entertainment Law
Replies: 14
Views: 450

Re: Cornell ($) v USC ($$$) for Entertainment Law

USC's curriculum might be cool but it's worth less than nothing if you can't get employment that will sponsor a visa. If you can't increase your LSAT enough to get into HYSBerkeley (a full ride at USC/UCLA or a T14 would also be reasonable, I guess), and "normal" biglaw isn't a career you'd be happy...
by icechicken
Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:58 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Cornell ($) v USC ($$$) for Entertainment Law
Replies: 14
Views: 450

Re: Cornell ($) v USC ($$$) for Entertainment Law

It's probably very difficult to get entertainment law from Cornell for the same reasons it's tough from most places. Cornell offers great opportunities but doesn't have any particular "in" to entertainment. $190k is also pretty expensive for even the best law schools. The intersection between entert...
by icechicken
Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:12 am
Forum: Personal Statements
Topic: Personal statement panic
Replies: 2
Views: 119

Re: Personal statement panic

https://www.law.uchicago.edu/jdfaq/personalstatement

I'd start with the advice in that link, with the major caveat that some schools prefer you be more explicit about your interest in law school.
by icechicken
Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:36 am
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: UVA $$ vs WUSTL $$$$
Replies: 38
Views: 1562

Re: UVA $$ vs WUSTL $$$$

Let me ask the UVA majority: If I somehow could negotiate a stipend from Wash U (doubtful) would that change your answer? Nah, the concern is not so much the exact delta between the schools because UVA offers qualitatively different opportunities. The financial concern here is whether the debt at U...
by icechicken
Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:37 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Lots of Fulls VS HYS
Replies: 45
Views: 1966

Re: Lots of Fulls VS HYS

Yeah, that kind of debt is pretty much a non-starter if you’re serious about politics. Having to do 10 years in LRAP debt prison is a big deal. Also, I highly doubt you’ll find much difference in “intellectual stimulation” between Harvard/Stanford/Chicago/Duke/UVA. There might be a significant happi...
by icechicken
Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:54 am
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Emory's Woodruff vs T6
Replies: 33
Views: 1183

Re: Emory's Woodruff vs T6

Kudos for doing the ethical thing and withdrawing. That scholarship would not have done you much good but it'll transform someone else's life for the better.
by icechicken
Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:59 am
Forum: Application Process
Topic: 2020 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest
Replies: 44
Views: 2049

Re: 2020 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

21157015576609 wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:42 am
wow when did vandy become the consensus #15?
Their latest BL+FC numbers resemble a lower t14’s
by icechicken
Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:21 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Lots of Fulls VS HYS
Replies: 45
Views: 1966

Re: Lots of Fulls VS HYS

Michigan seems like the frontrunner - I'm not sure Columbia offers much marginal benefit for the extra ~$80-100k it would cost - but max aid from HYS might muddy the water. It depends on how much you specifically want outcomes like impact litigation. I'd still roll with the Darrow.
by icechicken
Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:37 pm
Forum: Application Process
Topic: 2020 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest
Replies: 44
Views: 2049

Re: 2020 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest

Some deliberately-edgy picks here to try and strike big: 1. Yale 2. Stanford 3. Harvard 3. Chicago 5. Columbia 6. NYU 7. Penn 7. Berkeley 9. Michigan 10. UVA 10. Duke 12. Northwestern 13. Cornell 14. Georgetown 15. Vanderbilt 16. Texas 17. UCLA 17. USC 19. WashU 20. UCI 21. Minnesota 22. Boston Univ...
by icechicken
Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:23 pm
Forum: Choosing a Law School
Topic: Emory's Woodruff vs T6
Replies: 33
Views: 1183

Re: Emory's Woodruff vs T6

Yeah, the remote possibility of getting Atlanta biglaw and then lateraling to the West Coast and then transitioning into PI adds basically nothing to Emory's appeal here.