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Re: Careers in legal aid

by Potat » Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:42 am

ymmv wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:22 pm
Potat wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:01 pm
Hi all! Circling back to Dickinson Law, you think I'd have a good shot at legal aid in Philly? I think I would enjoy living there. My mom was raised there, so she's excited about the prospect.

I'm not seeing a whole lot of Dickinson Law representation in PA legal aid on LinkedIn. There are a few Dickinson Law alums practicing big law in Philadelphia. Surprisingly, I think I tracked more alums practicing big law in Delaware.
yeah I don't practice in philly, but in living there and doing student clinics I met dozens if not hundreds of temple law grads, a fair number of drexel law grads, a few widener folks, yet don't recall ever meeting anyone from dickinson (and apologies to them if I've forgotten). dickinson is a long drive from philly and would make doing clinics or attending networking events during the school year fairly difficult if not impossible.
Did you meet any Rutgers (Camden) law grads? They've provided an offer with $$$+. I'll try to wipe the conditions. Also, Pepperdine made an offer without money (non-negotiable). :cry:

Have a happy turkey day!

Re: Careers in legal aid

by sev » Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:51 am

At least for my organization, there's a shortage of attorneys--if you're dedicated to serving our clientbase, you've got a good shot no matter where you're from.

That said, I'm in very conservative region in flyover country where access-to-justice minded people generally don't want to move... California may be different.

Re: Careers in legal aid

by Story » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:45 pm

You know yourself better than I do. I thought I really wanted to live in NYC for my whole life. But then life, family, job satisfaction changes, and maybe you wanna move.

If you work first in Philly, it might be hard to go anywhere else later.

Re: Careers in legal aid

by Nony » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:38 pm

The thing is, it’s really early in the admissions cycle still - you don’t have to make any decisions now. It’s awesome that you got offered the full ride but I would let your cycle play out before getting committed to your various options.

Re: Careers in legal aid

by BlendedUnicorn » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:36 pm

oh jeez yeah, I didn't realize how far out it was. Would not go. The combination of no network in place and it being really difficult/impossible to do clinics/externships/whatever with local lawyers makes that a tough sell even if getting a gig in philly was everything you'd ever hoped and dreamed for.

Re: Careers in legal aid

by ymmv » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:22 pm

Potat wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:01 pm
Hi all! Circling back to Dickinson Law, you think I'd have a good shot at legal aid in Philly? I think I would enjoy living there. My mom was raised there, so she's excited about the prospect.

I'm not seeing a whole lot of Dickinson Law representation in PA legal aid on LinkedIn. There are a few Dickinson Law alums practicing big law in Philadelphia. Surprisingly, I think I tracked more alums practicing big law in Delaware.
yeah I don't practice in philly, but in living there and doing student clinics I met dozens if not hundreds of temple law grads, a fair number of drexel law grads, a few widener folks, yet don't recall ever meeting anyone from dickinson (and apologies to them if I've forgotten). dickinson is a long drive from philly and would make doing clinics or attending networking events during the school year fairly difficult if not impossible.

Re: Careers in legal aid

by BlendedUnicorn » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:07 pm

Philly seems like a cool city, but that's putting a lot of eggs in a basket kind of randomly. There's not a clear path back to California if you go and don't like it.

Re: Careers in legal aid

by Potat » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:38 pm

I don't think I'd mind. I have immediate family scattered in the northeast (DC, NYC, Boston), so I wouldn't feel alone. My mom's nearing retirement age, so she may even join me there soon after law school. I'm currently single.

I'll reach out to Dickinson for those stats and see if they can connect me with an alum. Thanks!

Re: Careers in legal aid

by Story » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:18 pm

I’m not as familiar with the legal aid market in Philly.

Are you sure you would want to spend your initial (at least) legal career in Philly? I forgot, do you have any SO that might object?

Have you asked Dickinson if they have stats about students who work in legal aid soon after law school? Maybe you can even ask to speak to an alumnus who does legal aid.

I imagine your chances of Philly legal aid will be pretty good. The biggest obstacle might be your lack of ties to the area. But if your mom is from there, maybe it could work as a “tie” to the area.

Re: Careers in legal aid

by Potat » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:01 pm

Hi all! Circling back to Dickinson Law, you think I'd have a good shot at legal aid in Philly? I think I would enjoy living there. My mom was raised there, so she's excited about the prospect.

I'm not seeing a whole lot of Dickinson Law representation in PA legal aid on LinkedIn. There are a few Dickinson Law alums practicing big law in Philadelphia. Surprisingly, I think I tracked more alums practicing big law in Delaware.

Re: Careers in legal aid

by Potat » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:50 pm

Much appreciated!

Re: Careers in legal aid

by northwood » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:31 pm

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Re: Careers in legal aid

by northwood » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:31 pm

Wait and see then go to the most economically friendly school closest to your target geographical area

Re: Careers in legal aid

by northwood » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:29 pm

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Re: Careers in legal aid

by Stranger » Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:22 pm

Potat wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:34 am
By my interactions with faculty and staff, I’m getting a good vibe from ASU.

When would be a good time to ask ASU to reconsider my scholarship? Should I wait to receive more offers to maximize leverage, or should I get the ball rolling now? I’ve already inquired about the negotiation procedure - they provided a form for me to fill-in and submit.

Sorry if this is off-topic for the thread.
Four years ago, I went to the admitted students weekend and drank ASU's admissions dean under the table. He came right out and said to ask him for more money (someone else at the table emailed him before we went home for the night). Ask as soon as you have leverage, which is now.

Re: Careers in legal aid

by BlendedUnicorn » Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:22 am

Potat wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:34 am
[bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep]

When would be a good time to ask ASU to reconsider my scholarship? Should I wait to receive more offers to maximize leverage, or should I get the ball rolling now? I’ve already inquired about the negotiation procedure - they provided a form for me to fill-in and submit.

Sorry if this is off-topic for the thread.
You have a full ride in hand, I’d start negotiating. Won’t do much for your leverage to say you’ve also gotten into a Cali school with a lower scholly. If you get a full ride at a comparable Cali school you can always update them on that (though, again, if you’re really committed to legal aid I wouldn’t overthink this, there isn’t a huge advantage to minimizing your student loans if the long term goal is to get them PSLFed).

Re: Careers in legal aid

by Potat » Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:34 am

By my interactions with faculty and staff, I’m getting a good vibe from ASU.

When would be a good time to ask ASU to reconsider my scholarship? Should I wait to receive more offers to maximize leverage, or should I get the ball rolling now? I’ve already inquired about the negotiation procedure - they provided a form for me to fill-in and submit.

Sorry if this is off-topic for the thread.

Re: Careers in legal aid

by northwood » Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:04 am

Potat wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:27 pm
I have yet to hear from CA schools. I've applied to UCI, Davis, Hastings, Loyola, Pepperdine, USD. I applied ED for UCI, so my fate could be sealed by year's end. LMU is not known to be generous. I'm an extreme splitter in that I have a sub-3.0 GPA. Also, their jobs data make me wary.

Thank you all! I really appreciate your thoughts and opinions.
If you want to have options, I would try to change your UCI application to rd. Otherwise, if you get in and want to go to law school, that is where you will go, even if you have to pay full tuition

Re: Careers in legal aid

by Hennessy » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:40 pm

Potat join the LSL discord. Let's have a chat about your plans/options.

Re: Careers in legal aid

by Hennessy » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:34 pm

Yes. It's extremely helpful.

Re: Careers in legal aid

by Potat » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:25 pm

Guys, I've got another question. I'm monolingual. I'm seeing lots of legal services-jobs postings preferring Spanish speakers. Should I make a serious effort to learn the language?

Re: Careers in legal aid

by Potat » Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:29 pm

Will do!

Re: Careers in legal aid

by Story » Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:25 am

Let the CA schools know about your scholarship. See if they can match or get close.

Re: Careers in legal aid

by Potat » Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:27 pm

I have yet to hear from CA schools. I've applied to UCI, Davis, Hastings, Loyola, Pepperdine, USD. LMU is not known to be generous. Also, their jobs data make me wary.

Thank you all! I really appreciate your thoughts and opinions.

Re: Careers in legal aid

by Story » Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:00 pm

Have you applied to or heard back from local LA schools like Loyola, Pepperdine, Southwestern, etc.? I imagine you might get good scholarships from these schools too.

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